4.14: One more episode to go before the 6 episode streak ends!

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Promo Damon doesn’t have friends, so I don’t know what this is about.

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85 thoughts on “4.14: One more episode to go before the 6 episode streak ends!

  1. I kind of don’t care about what Elena’s saying. Two episodes ago, she came up with a plan to have Jeremy kill Kol’s line, so why is she lamenting now? What is this going to lead to?

    Stefan didn’t tell Elena why he wanted the cure because it didn’t have anything to do with her? That’s not how you have a good relationship. You don’t only talk about things relevant to the other person.

    • I never hated the show as much as you guys until Elena and Jeremy conspired to kill 10k vampires.

      Ugh! lol Damn these writers. I was just barely over their killing off of Anna and that was like in season one. Arg!

      I wonder if after she takes the cure, if she does, that she goes into a rabid depression for killing all these vamps? lol or if they’ll forget about this until season 6 and then bring in a random person who found out she killed kol who inturn caused the death of their true love lol

      • If she doesn’t feel guilty while her emotions are ~heightened, I don’t know why she’d care after her emotions went back to normal.

        The thing is also: these Originals don’t act like they care about their bloodline. They don’t behave in a way that says: well I should probably try not to get killed because my death would mean the end of so many people.

        They don’t care. These vampires also do nothing to police each other the way humans and even witches police each other. They all behave like independent agents even in, in the Originals’ case, they aren’t.

    • Stefan didn’t tell Elena why he wanted the cure because it didn’t have anything to do with her? That’s not how you have a good relationship. You don’t only talk about things relevant to the other person.

      I don´t know, I can´t really blame him for that, until episode 4×04 they didn´t even know that a cure existed, then Klaus commanded Stefan to not tell anybody about it and then in episode 6 Elena didn´t want to talk to him and was all occupied with her halluzinations and in the same episode they broke up. They didn´t really get the chance to talk about it anyways. And after that they didn´t really interact that much until episode 10 I think, where Rebekah mentioned what Stefan said in episode 4.

      • Yeah, but Stefan talks as if they did have the time. I think if he really wanted to, he would have found a way to tell her. He sure spilled his guts to Damon after a short struggle and then asked him to keep it from Elena.

  2. Has anybody an idea why Forwood are trying to decode the sword? Are they just bored or something? I thought in episode 13 they would reveal something that explains them working on the sword but there was nothing, so why do they get the idea now? They don´t have contact to the people on the island and all the know up until now is that the sword is useless.

    • I have no idea why. No one left them with any responsibilities as far as the cure goes. It’ll probably be Caroline’s idea in an attempt to be useful to the group.

        • Stupidity? Who knows? He obviously heard the conversation. Does her walking off at the end means she was playing him last episode? I actually don’t care about the answer. The writers have no allegiance to Caroline.

          • Does her walking off at the end means she was playing him last episode?

            Who knows. Or maybe now that she is back in health she wants to ignore all the stuff she talked about at the end of last episode.

            Also Stefan is like, Caroline will find the sword. But didn´t he search for it in that christmas episode and didn´t find it? This show, forgetting stuff that happened episodes ago.

            • Ugh. I’m finding it harder and harder to care.

              Didn’t he say that if anyone could get Klaus to tell them where the sword is, it’s Caroline?

              This supposed power that Caroline has over Klaus is so false. Klaus has more than proven that he has all of the power in that dynamic. So they need to stop.

              • He does have all the power. That is why she has to resort to flattery, charm and manipulation. If she had more power, in the traditional sense, she could just force him to do what she wants. Instead, while he continues to objectify her to satisfy his own ego, she is gaining real understanding of how he works because she needs it for survival. At least, I hope that is what they are going for in their usual clumsy lol-worthy way.

    • I had seen th casting for Davina before. JP has made sure that no one will criticize her for the witch/vamp dynamic or romance or any of th stuff by not casting a Black witch. I see she’s keeping up the token Black person tradition from TVD since Marcel is the only Black character. And since he’s a vamp, he probably won’t have family.

      I’ll be surprised if they have Camille caught between Elijah and Klaus, considering Hayley is the leading lady. We still don’t know what Hayley will be doing.

      I’m betting Hayley’s dad killed her mom or something like that.

      I wonder if any of the witch characters will miss as many episodes as Bonnie has on TVD. If their pov will be honored, if they’ll have love interests in the regular, if their magic will be given attention, etc.

  3. Sorry for posting this here, but I wanted to know what you think, because I just …

    Any Klaus scoop before he heads to New Orleans on The Vampire Diaries? — Rachel
    NATALIE:/b Can we say hot hybrid sex? Joseph Morgan‘s wishes have been granted and in an episode to air in March, Klaus is finally getting some lovin’. But who’s the lucky girl? Share your best guesses in the comments!

    Source: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Bones-Scandal-Spoilers-1060899.aspx

    • At least he has a name. Ugh. And I’m guess they’re not going to explicitly tell us he’s Native. Apparently we’re supposed to know that if he’s wearing face paint, then he must be Native. Ugh.

        • I think that’s the first Native Ayaan is referring to. If they don’t bring up the fact that he tried to kill Jeremy next ep, then it’ll just look like some random attack for the sake of drama.

  4. Here is the australian promo:

    I would assume that Rebekah tells him that the cure is only for one person, but how would she know anyways? And if it is only for one person would she take it for herself or would she use it on Klaus? I don´t know her priorities anymore.

    • Every vamp for themselves. That must mean it’s for only one person. And if that’s the case, then Bonnie better use it on Abby and call it a day. She’s in charge of actually performing the spell, so she should get to say who gets cured if it’s only one person.

      But how would Rebekah know this? And if she knows this then how come she has lately acted like more than one person can get cured?

  5. -AUDIBLE groans- why why why?! Why am I noticing how stilted and terrible the dialogue is in the beginning of this webclip?! Phone it in more Elena, phone it in more writers!

    • Vaughn is in episode 14, isn’t he? The ep 14 synopsis says Bonnie will reveal another part of Shane’s plan, but I don’t think it mentions anything about Shane. What if it’s Shane who dies? That’ll be sad. The only other person I can think of is the “native” who’s working with him.

      • Vaughn is in episode 15, that´s right.
        The stuff that follows could be more spoilery for later episodes:

        I don´t think it´s Shane because I have some info about the shooting for one of the later episodes.
        I think it´s either Massak, the warlock who helps Shane or it´s between Tyler and Jeremy, Jeremy because of the synopsis for next episode or Tyler because I don´t think we are going to see Tyler this season again, Michael hasn´t been on set since episode 14 and somebody told me that Michael probably won´t return to ATL for this seasons shooting.

        • Michael hasn´t been on set since episode 14 and somebody told me that Michael probably won´t return to ATL for this seasons shooting.

          Oh crap.

          Not Jeremy, please! ;___;.

          If I had to choose a person to die next episode, I’d choose….well I’d choose Vaughn (apparently the actor slut-shamed Elena. Anyone see that). But since Vaughn is in 15, I choose Massak.

          • (apparently the actor slut-shamed Elena. Anyone see that)

            I saw the drama and at first I didn´t get it, because this guy gave an interview, here is the actual quote:

            Alloy Entertainment: Vaughn has a strong opinion when it comes to Delena on the show. But what’s your outlook on their relationship from what you’ve seen so far? What piece of love advice would you offer them?
            Charlie Bewley:
            My outlook on relationships is not one you want to hear, but in the context of TVD I’ll say this: I cannot believe these two brothers toss around a girl they supposedly love, neither can I believe that Elena willfully hops into bed with one after the next, and back. Sire bond is no excuse.

            Source: http://vampirediaries.alloyentertainment.com/exclusive-interview-charlie-bewley/

            And I didn´t put much thought into it because I was bothered already that they have to ask a guest star who will only be there for 3 episodes max about Delena and who probably doesn´t even know every detail of the show (although he said: “I had never watched the show until I was cast – then I caught up and realized what I had gotten myself into.”) but I thought he was calling out the ridiculousness of the triangle in general because he also mentioned Stefan and Damon and their supposed love for Elena and them tossing her around, so he called out every part of the triangle.
            And then I saw his tweet and there isn´t any excuse for that.

  6. An interview with Joseph: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/02/the-vampire-diaries-star-joseph-morgan-dishes-on-klaus-and-caroline-more-revealing-scenes-and-his-ne.html

    In the next two episodes, two major characters will exit the show in significant (though different) ways. We can’t divulge who had to pack their knives and go, but suffice to say, the “TVDFamily” in Atlanta is shrinking a bit. Though characters are written out of the show on a pretty regular basis, Morgan admits that it never gets easier to say goodbye.

    So it´s even two … 😦 And none of them is Klaus for sure.

    • “Pack their knives.” Is that a clue? Is that a clue about Jeremy?!

      How are they going to have two MAJOR characters leave? Something tells me that they’re exaggerating on the “major” status for at least one of them.

        • But if Tyler leaves town or whatever after this episode why is Caroline more concerned about Elena in the next episode … according to the synopsis. Shouldn´t it be the other way around if something happens to Caro´s boyfriend? So confused about this stuff.

      • It reminds me strongly of the stuff that happened last season. The writers found a way to shove Jeremy and Tyler out of the show for some episodes to bring in the Originals and their storyline. They probably do it so that they have more room for Elijah or whatever.

    • And now in regards to the interview with JoMo, I have some stuff to say about it:

      “The way Candice played it, she was being genuine. I also think it’s more interesting if she was — it sort of adds a level of complexity to her character, rather than, ‘Oh, we’re playing another thing on Klaus.’ It’s more if it comes from a genuine place. As an actor and a character, I bought into it.”

      I agree that Candice played it like she meant it but anyways her acting was awful so who knows. She also sounded like the creep keeper and first I thought maybe she watched the last scene of Damon in 2×22 before she played that but not even Ian sounded like that.
      And I disagree on the “more interesting” – nope it is not, it´s just like a typical abusive relationship on this show, the girl gets hurt by the guy but nevertheless sees good in him and that´s why wants to believe in his feelings. Bla bla, already had that a thousand times. And it doesn´t add a level of complexity it´s just frustrating to see Caroline that way.

      “I think they do it under the guise of morality. They have this moral curtain that they wrap around the whole thing, like, ‘We’re doing this because of this, and that’s what’s right!’ But really, the act is still the same. You’re still killing. However you try to justify it, we’re all bad.”

      The problem is what is even morality on this show? We don´t see them talking about the world outside of them anymore (I think the last time they did was in season 2), their is no focus on what happens when those vampires who are in Kols sireline collapse on the street, nobody cares about it. We know that, we know that those people are selfish and I don´t get that Elena and the group have this moral courtain. I only see this group of selfish people who wants to survive and doesn´t care about the other stuff and the show can´t be bothered to show it anyways. The only person who calls those people “heroes” is our EP Julie Plec.

      “I just have a higher body count — but I also have a few hundred years on them, you know? They’ll get there.”

      How does he know? Who knows how they will develop in the next hundred years, maybe they are never going to kill anymore? You can´t look into the future.
      And that´s what is bothering me, I know those characters are grey but in the end some do more bad things than others and shouldn´t we awknowledge that? Shouldn´t we say Klaus/Stefan/Damon are worse than Caroline and Bonnie and Tyler? Why shouldn´t we be allowed to do that? It´s like you are a bank robber and you go to a child after it stole a bubble gum and say “Wait for it, in 15 years you will be just like me.”
      It´s just like when Caroline sympathized with Klaus in episode 9, “we all did bad things” … yes but you have to look deeper into that. You can compare Klaus to Stefan and Damon but not Caroline. The same goes for her talk with “Don´t stoop to his level” … it takes a very long time and many actions for Tyler to stoop to Klaus level.

      Despite the mayhem and murder going on in Mystic Falls, everybody seems to have time to get laid once in a while — except, it seems, for Klaus.

      No, Carina, no. Nobody wants to see this, but I waited four seasons to get Bonnie laid on the show.

      The spin-off has actually been in the works for years.

      Oh no. And they still endured us with all the Kill-Klaus/Kill-Originals-Storylines even though they already planned that stuff.

      “I don’t know that we could do another year of ‘We hate Klaus and we’ve got to get rid of him, but he’s kind of sticking around.'”

      That talk is already one year too late.

      Sorry for the rant.

      • I agree that Candice played it like she meant it but anyways her acting was awful so who knows. She also sounded like the creep keeper and first I thought maybe she watched the last scene of Damon in 2×22 before she played that but not even Ian sounded like that.

        LOL! And you’re right, it doesn’t add a level of complexity to Candice’s character. It adds a level of complexity to JoMo’s (if I’m being generous), but it only adds another level of frustration for Candices’. What is the point of Caroline actually being genuine? What is the point for her character? And JoMo’s speculation here (because he says he BELIEVES Candice was playing it genuine) means the writers do NOT go on to reveal that Caroline was playing him.

        I only see this group of selfish people who wants to survive and doesn´t care about the other stuff and the show can´t be bothered to show it anyways. The only person who calls those people “heroes” is our EP Julie Plec.

        Yep. And it’s NOT the same because they aren’t all working together in this. Klaus is their enemy. That therefore makes it NOT the same. If they were the same, then Elena and ’em wouldn’t have felt the need to kill Kol and Finn. What is this show ABOUT?

        And that´s what is bothering me, I know those characters are grey but in the end some do more bad things than others and shouldn´t we awknowledge that? Shouldn´t we say Klaus/Stefan/Damon are worse than Caroline and Bonnie and Tyler?

        I highly doubt these people think about Bonnie and/or Tyler unless they’re directly asked about them. I feel like when they generalize like this, they’re referring to the core three and maybe Caroline.

        Despite the mayhem and murder going on in Mystic Falls, everybody seems to have time to get laid once in a while — except, it seems, for Klaus.

        Like I said: they don’t think about Bonnie. Bonnie hasn’t gotten laid, but apparently no one but her fans wants to see that. When she finally does get laid, I wonder if it will even be noted. If it’s with Jeremy, I’m sure the conversation will be more focused on the fact that she’s sleeping with the guy who cheated on her. But when it happens for Klaus (and Caroline?), it’ll just be hot and burn up our screens. Whatever. I will cuss out Carina’s name if that happens, I promise.

        It’s been in the works, but they obviously haven’t been laying it out on the show. It may have been in the works for years, but that doesn’t mean the network have approved it years ago. There’s a difference. Unless the spinoff is why the second half of season 3 was such a damn mess.

        That talk is already one year too late.

        Say it again and tell me about it. We had that crap for 22 episodes. It’s already too late. Shut up.

        Don’t apologize for ranting! 🙂

  7. ”Like I said: they don’t think about Bonnie. Bonnie hasn’t gotten laid, but apparently no one but her fans wants to see that. When she finally does get laid, I wonder if it will even be noted. If it’s with Jeremy, I’m sure the conversation will be more focused on the fact that she’s sleeping with the guy who cheated on her. But when it happens for Klaus (and Caroline?), it’ll just be hot and burn up our screens. Whatever. I will cuss out Carina’s name if that happens, I promise”

    Right I am sure the focus wil be on everything else but Bonnie getting laid. Rememeber the Bonnie/Jeremy kiss, in her recap she said something about how the location was not epic enugh or something…..? Huh? Ok whatever.

  8. Katherine bypassed Vaughn and went for Jeremy. She could’ve bitten Vaughn. No Hunter’s curse if you just bite ‘em. I can’t believe how much of a Deus Ex Machina she is. She’s the very definition of it. She’s not a regular character. She hasn’t had character growth or a storyline since season 2. But all of a sudden she shows up on this island with a machete to keep Jeremy from getting killed, and then she shows up in the cave completely undetected and unheard to kill Jeremy. She was literally the writers’ pen at work. And she’ll serve no freaking purpose beyond what she just did in this episode. Deus Ex Machina.

    I don’t know how she’s going to live after this. I don’t know how Elena isn’t going to kill her. Are they going to make Elena impotent wrt avenging her brother, too? How is Vaughn going to be walking around revealing things to Damon in the next episode after what he just did? Bonnie should kill him! Why won’t she kill him? Why isn’t she going to go into shock and then snap at everything after what just happened? If they keep her in character, then she should kill Vaughn because he rendered her impotent and she had to watch Jeremy die.

    Then she needs to kill Katherine if Elena isn’t going to do it.

    Then she needs to kill Shane by sacrificing him to bring Jeremy back to life.

    I don’t understand this.

    One of the reasons TVD sucks as a show is that the only way they can think of to get the fans talking is to kill a character.

    “Who are they gonna kill? Who are they gonna kill? Who’s dying next?”

    They can’t write plot for us to talk about, of course not. That’s preposterous.

    They can’t write moving scenes, meaningful scenes, scenes filled with emotion, to get us to talk. That’d be ridiculous.

    They can’t string a decent mystery together without there being a million holes so instead of just speculating you’re also trying to guess what the fuck kind of mystery they’re trying to present you with.

    They can’t write for shit so they kill people.

  9. If Jeremy’s truly dead, then Bonnie will be COMPLETELY surrounded by vultures.

    I know Jeremy wasn’t with her 24/7, and I know there was that stretch of time where they didn’t interact after they broke up, but good Lord you at least knew he was there and you know we’d get a reprieve from all the damn asking of Bonnie to do crap if she got a scene with him. His presence was just….nice and comforting and represented a good possibility. We had the nice memories from season 2 about him being there for her and not wanting her to strain herself and push past her limits. And they were interacting again this season and it was the same thing.

    Now Bonnie’s surrounded by cheerleaders and faux-supporters. People who won’t bother to look closely at her. She’ll tell them she can do it, and they’ll buy it. Tell me I’m lying, and I’ll tell you the number of times Stefan’s done it.

    “Bonnie says she’s got all this crazy power now.”-Elena

    If it allows Bonnie to do more shit for them, they don’t think about it. Don’t think about what it might be doing to Bonnie, what it’ll do to her, where she’s getting it from, nothing.

    This is all of their faults. Jeremy, Bonnie, Elena, Stefan, Damon, Klaus, Rebekah. It’s their fault that Jeremy’s dead.

    NOT ONCE did they use their brains because they’re dumb as boxes of bricks. They hear the guy wants to bring the world to its knees. Do they question it? Do they consider Kol’s words? Even if they killed him, they could’ve considered what he was saying.

    Does Bonnie contact anybody, Qetsiyah, for guidance?

    Do they have a meeting about it? Weigh the pros and cons?

    No. They don’t need guidance. Of course they don’t need guidance. Because they’re confident as fuck, and GOD knows why considering the amount of shit they’ve failed to accomplish.

    So now Jeremy’s dead.

  10. I’m still not quite sure how to react to this episode.
    If Jeremy really is dead then who’s going to look out for Bonnie? We know none of the others are going to. They don’t seem to care about what happens to her so long as she is able to help them.
    Where the hell did Katherine come from? Why would she be interested in the cure? She loves being a vampire so I don’t buy her wanting it for herself. And how did she even know anything about the cure and Silas etc, she’s been MIA since the beginning of season 3. Urgh.
    Oh Tyler! This has been the third season in a row where Tyler has ‘disappeared’. I’m getting tired of it. I like Tyler and really believe that they could do so much more with his character, but if him leaving again is just so that they can push the whole Klaroline thing even harder then I’d rather they kill him off.
    And back to Katherine, she didn’t kill Vaughn because of the Hunter’s curse, but she then goes and snaps Jeremy’s neck. He is still a hunter right? But I doubt they’ll have Katherine suffer the consequences from killing him.

    Why did they kill Jeremy?!

    • And how did she even know anything about the cure and Silas etc, she’s been MIA since the beginning of season 3.

      This is why she’s a freaking Deus Ex Machina. She just appears. No backstory nothing. She’s just there. I’m sure they’ll say she’s been ~watching. The go-to answer.

      Katherine’s not the one who snapped his neck. She bit him. Silas snapped his neck. I don’t know why.

      I hear Tyler’s gone for good. And it is very much so that they can push Klaroline. JoMo says episode 18 is a big Klaroline episode:

      http://www.eonline.com/news/388547/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-glee-the-vampire-diaries-big-bang-theory-teen-wolf-and-more?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

      • So Trevino maybe lost his job as a regular cast member so that they could push more of this horrible ship on the show?
        I would love to hear his opinion on everything. I thought we would get some kind of interview with him after this episode but he didn´t even spoke about it on twitter, he didn´t even mention something like “watch tonights tvd episode” … he is just over this show.

        I also saw that they are probably going to set up some crossovers between TVD and that Originals spinoff so it´s practically impossible for Tyler to return if Klaus can show up in town unless Klaus give up on trying to hunt him down.

        Also it doesn´t even make sense … so is Klaus now leaving town to hunt Tyler down after he gave him a headstart? No he is not, we all know it.
        And why is Tyler the only one who has to leave town? All of them should be dead by now. Everybody tried to kill him. This is such a weak excuse to let him leave town. It´s just like Bonnie is the only one who has to face consequences in regards to her witchcraft.
        Why did Klaus even talk about his reputation? Lmao, what reputation, this guy is a fail.

        Also I really disliked the send off for Tyler, if this was his last episode, why was everything so focused on Caroline? They even let Klaus humiliate him even more, that´s not how you say good bye to a character who was there since day one. Especially after his whole storyline since the end of season 3 was to be free of Klaus and he fought for it so much and in the end he lost everything.This is a shame.
        His abuser gets to win and even gets his own spinoff.

        Also I don´t think Candice is able to cry anymore, especially the first “there isn´t a right way” was cringeworthy imo. Michael was probably already thinking about the flight back to LA in that last scene. He was so over everything.

        And that Klaroline scene with “We are the same” … so Damon also wants to stay a vampire because he likes to be so powerful and stuff, does this mean he is also “the same”? And Tyler doesn´t want to take the cure aswell. Are they all “the same”? Katherine loves being a vampire too.
        That was such a weak comparison between those two.
        I get that Caroline loves to be a vamp even though now she gets to be tortured even more and she isn´t that powerful, I just hate that Klaus has to tell us this and she couldn´t talk about it for example with her friends.

        • That’s part of why he’s gone in my, imo. The writers couldn’t reconcile pushing Klaroline with Tyler still in the picture. How would people be convinced that Caroline and Klaus are “the same” when Tyler’s present to show how much bullshit that is. Plus they didn’t want to show Caroline purposely leaving Tyler for a serial killer, so they did this.

          And why is Tyler the only one who has to leave town? All of them should be dead by now. Everybody tried to kill him. This is such a weak excuse to let him leave town. It´s just like Bonnie is the only one who has to face consequences in regards to her witchcraft.

          I can’t. The way they wrote Tyler out is so disrespectful to Michael Trevino. While it’s good that he didn’t die (unlike what might be the case with Jeremy), he still had a weaker exit than Jeremy. They literally tore down everything about this character, his dreams, his family, EVERYTHING, and then they put him on the run. That’s incredible.

          I tried to forget I heard Klaus mention anything about his reputation. Like someone said, “Who’s checking for Klaus?”

          Michael was probably already thinking about the flight back to LA in that last scene. He was so over everything.

          LOL!

          I get that Caroline loves to be a vamp even though now she gets to be tortured even more and she isn´t that powerful, I just hate that Klaus has to tell us this and she couldn´t talk about it for example with her friends.

          This. Why was Klaus talking about this? Why didn’t Caroline talk about this with the girls during “Girls Night?”

          Klaus said Caroline likes being “strong. Ageless. Fearless.” He got one out of three right. How does he know Caroline is strong? She has strength, but when has he seen it be of use to her? He’s either literally taken away her strength or he’s seen her strength taken away (when she was kidnapped by Alaric). He’s also never seen her be fearless. But he sure has seen her be fearful plenty of times. Including the day before this episode when she thought she was going to die.

  11. What confused me about Katherine is that, after Vaughn knocked down Jeremy, Vaughn was giving blood to Silas so why did she knock him out just to give Jeremy’s blood it was so random and didnt make sense to me.

    Jeremy was the only one on Bonnie’s side even when they found the cure he was like who cares heal Bonnie first. In the same episode Klaus tells Caroline Bonnie is hurt and she doesnt react and in the promo Elena wants to find Bonnie I am sure to use her magic for Jeremy who cares that she is missing.

    The Tyler/Caroline scenes was no words lol Trevino was not here for this, it is quite obvious Tyler is being written out because they want to do whatever with Klaus/Caroline. Thier goodbye scene I barely paid attention because it was ridiculous.

    • I don’t know why Katherine didn’t just feed Vaughn to Silas. She could’ve done it while pretending to be Elena.

      I didn’t even notice Caroline’s lack of reaction when Klaus told her that something must’ve happened to Bonnie.

      The Forwood goodbye scene did absolutely nothing for me. It confused me at one point cause I was like, why the heck did Tyler just change his mind because Caroline told him to?

      So Caroline gets “until we meet again” and Bonnie gets to watch Jeremy die next to her. Lovely.

      I always questioned if they’d ever let Forwood break up. And the answer is they wouldn’t they left it on a high note. So Caroline pretty much has a boyfriend on the back burner while she plays around with Klaus.

  12. Why aren’t you glad that this useless character is dead. Jeremy is basically Matt with random shitty storylines thrown in when he’s not being shipped off for months at a time. #MyAnnaBiasIsShowing. I haven’t seen a reason for his existence since she got killed. His storylines just plummeted after that.

    What does he contribute?

    Random hunter powers o.o um… out of left field, much?
    Random ghost seeing powers o.o um… equally as out of left field, much?
    Ditching Bonnie for a ghost…

    I think once he’s dead and gone that will tie up the “Yay, we just murdered 10k vamps nonsense last time.” So Elena will be all bitchy and angry that he’s dead, forget about her atrocities, and start being evil-like. Or she’ll just go back to being mopey.

    This obviously propels Bonnie, WHO SHOULD HAVE DIED (ugh, yeah, hunter, stab her in the back and let her live… what? dumb ass! stab her in the back of the head!), into dark-willow status. Not sure why this will be worth watching.

    —–

    All of this makes me want to see Silas. If he is a big baddie then he won’t bring back Jeremy. If he brings back Jeremy… then EVERYONE they’ve EVER killed off of this spiraling show should be brought back. It WON’T make sense otherwise. I’m sure Stefan would want Lexi back. I’m sure Caroline would want her Dad back. I’m sure Elena wants her Aunt and Uncle and Mom and Dad… back.

    So Silas can’t bring people back from the dead …. ?

    lol

    All that being said, I can’t believe Julie Plec is killing off him off. He’s not a woman.

    • I’ll give you one guess why I’m not happy that he’s dead.

      Anna is dead. Get over it, tbh. No one made promises that she was going to be a regular. She served her purpose. Her storyline ended and she was even reunited with her mother. She’s dead. Jeremy existed before her and he continued to exist after her. *Shrugs*

      Out of left field? Were you paying attention in season 1 when they revealed that he comes from a family of vampire hunters? Did you pay attention when they said his ancestor trapped and killed vampires with the council. Did you miss it when his Uncle John was a vampire killer? UJ killed Pearl and helped kill the tomb vamps. Did you miss it when UJ wanted Jeremy to take up the family tradition? Did you miss it when Jeremy started to do that in season 3 after your precious Anna disappeared for the second time? Did you miss him killing that Hybrid in season 3?

      Do you know what out of left field means?

      Random ghost seeing powers that came as a CONSEQUENCE of Bonnie bringing him back to life. Without that power, you wouldn’t have seen precious Anna again.

      You know exactly why I’m not happy that he’s dead. Being obtuse about it isn’t going to do anything for you, I promise. Someone tried it with one of my posts on tumblr yesterday and they for this same reaction.

      Throw your party. Don’t act like it’s a mystery why I’m not happy he’s dead. THAT is trolling and I am soooo not here for it.

      • You don’t need to bash me for my differing opinion/question.

        I just don’t take anything away from Jeremy’s character. I’m sorry if you want to tell me to get over my favorite character’s death, good on ya, but I doubt me telling you to “get over Bonnie’s death” would go over too well.

        Jeremy, like I said, I haven’t taken seriously since the end of season one.

        Bonnie has never caught on with me. The writers drop her into episodes at random times and her screen time feels ‘Matt’ level at best. If she had Caroline level storylines, maybe I’d care what happens to her.

        If Bonnie, your fav character, were to be randomly killed and Jeremy lived on, collecting meaningless, future relationships that you found pointless, I don’t think you’d be happy with him or his storylines.

        Picture that. Picture Bonnie getting stabbed in the chest and dieing in a fire next episode. Then picture further seasons with Jeremy as a ‘shipped out of town every other episode’ lead, who gets random storylines, random powers, and has random love interests. Would you enjoy his character or those he has scenes with?

        I don’t think it’s a stretch to think that you’d grow to dislike Jeremy’s character, or find it difficult to relate to and enjoy his romantic interest.

        • You asking me why I wasn’t happy about Jeremy’s death didn’t go over well, so no. And I don’t need to hold on to Bonnie’s death. She’s alive.

          Don’t act like you’re wrongfully under attack from me when you knew exactly what you were doing when you asked me why I wasn’t happy about Jeremy’s death. I mean I assume you still listen to the podcast. You already know the answer. Yet you asked anyway. I don’t begrudge you celebrating Jeremy’s death or Bonnie getting hurt or any of that. You can do that on here, because I can just not respond to it even though I read it. But asking me why I’m not happy? Are you serious? You know that you’re on a Bonnie and a Jeremy friendly blog.

          Caroline doesn’t have a storyline where she isn’t a prop to the more important male character: Klaus. She’s just a window to show us his ~ humanity.

          If Bonnie, my favorite character, died, I wouldn’t still be watching the show. Tbh, I’m not even sure of my future with the show if Jeremy stays dead (because of what I said about Bonnie now being completely surrounded by opportunistic assholes).

          Like I said, I wouldn’t get a chance to dislike Jeremy’s character. I’d stop watching.

        • Why aren’t you glad that this useless character is dead.

          If you weren’t looking to start a flamewar, I don’t understand the purpose of this statement. Jeremy isn’t my fave either but I am not going to go up to his fans, right after his death, and tell them that their fondness for the character is misguided.

          • You mean there are actual Jeremy fans? I honestly didn’t think anyone liked him, only tolerated him as a potential love interest for Bonnie to give her more screentime.

                • LOL. Cry more. I don’t mind saying that I do hope Alta bans you. Go awkwardly troll somewhere else.

                  The difference between me and you is that I would never try to make you feel ridiculous for liking Ana or anything else and then play the victim when people don’t like it.

                • So your surprise about there being Jeremy fans is still facetious because I’ve been voicing being interested in Jeremy on the podcast since season 2. Yet you’re “surprised” that there are people who like Jeremy. And even if you never listened to the podcast and only read the comments, my investment in Jeremy is apparent in what I write too. And if you DON’T read any of the comments and only pay attentino to what you write, then I don’t know what to tell you. But I highly doubt this is the first time you’re realizing I like Jeremy because I know for a fact we’ve talked about this before. You might as well say you had idea that I love Bonnie.

  13. Do you think the tombstone will play a important role later this season? I have a feeling that this will be the case and I hate so much that probably Katherine has it. Because she must have killed Massak and I didn´t see the tombstone with him.
    I hate that she returned so much, I´m just so over her character. Why would she risk raising an immortal warlock, who supposedly will try to end the world just to get the cure? That doesn´t even make sense for survivor!Katherine. She is just there for the shock value and I knew it was Katherine the moment she rolled her eyes when Jeremy said “hunters curse”.

    • I don’t know why Katherine took the tombstone. Are they telling me she knows its significance? They really want me to believe she knows how valuable it is in some witch circles? Olu and I talked about it a little on the podcast. Is she going to try to offer it to Silas so that he’ll spare her? Other than that, I don’t know if the tombstone will be important. It might aid in destroying Silas maybe? And if that’s the case, then I’d want Bonnie to procure it herself. I don’t want the Salvatores being the ones to take it from Katherine and just give it to her. Ugh.

      I’m over her too. I want her to die. I’m not exaggerating when I say she deserves to die. Why would survivor!Katherine put a target on her back by giving Jeremy up? These people managed to trap her once before. Has she forgotten that? She could have used Vaughn and called it a day. And if she turns herself human, then it’ll just he easier to kill her. Just dumb.

      I knew it was her the moment Elena said, “No” and looked like she was ready to fight.

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