Episode 93: TVD’s O Come All Ye Faithful

Episode 93

Guest: Ayaan

On the very anti-climactic mid-season finale of TVD, Carol Lockwood and the twelve Hybrids died. That’s it. Jeremy won’t try to kill Elena anymore, and Shane’s still mysterious. That’s it. Olu, a guest co-host, and I take another crack at the nonexistent TVD witch mythology to work out the specifics of possessions, ghosts, and the universality of spells. Plus, we discuss the characters’ progression so far in the season.

Quotes of the Podcast: “Tyler’s story deserved a better payoff than this if it was going to climax in the mid-winter finale. What kind of climax was this? All of this happened just so he could fail? […] I’m just left asking why. Tyler literally got nothing done. I don’t think there’s been a character on this show who has failed so spectacularly at getting what they want.”

“Another problem with comparing the Hybrids to slavery is that the whole basis of the [sire] bond is gratitude.”-Ayaan

“You know who would have to be Silas to make up for [Shane not being Silas]? God. I can’t think of an actor they could cast who would make up for Shane not being Silas. Unless they made Silas Black, and they cast Aldis Hodge. But they’re not gonna do that. Black guy the most powerful guy on the show?”-Olu

“I did like that this bond between Jeremy and Bonnie is kind of like the opposite of the bond, the sire bond, between Damon and Elena, because Damon and Elena’s bond restricts her choices, while, as a result of his bond with Bonnie, [Jeremy] has choice.”-Ayaan

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7 thoughts on “Episode 93: TVD’s O Come All Ye Faithful

  1. “I did like that this bond between Jeremy and Bonnie is kind of like the opposite of the bond, the sire bond, between Damon and Elena, because Damon and Elena’s bond restricts her choices, while, as a result of his bond with Bonnie, [Jeremy] has choice.”

    That’s an interesting way of looking at it…I was actually very uncomfortable about what happened to Jeremy in this ep, because although his repressed emotions and resentment of Elena was supernaturally provoked, I think that’s just the show being chicken about letting him express things that he has every right to feel, by saying it’s because of the Hunter’s Curse, when they ARE subconscious thoughts that Jeremy has had all along, he’s just been repressing them (and maybe the compulsions had an effect, too.) And Elena was trying to “reprogram” him, as she admitted to Damon, like the two of them did before, only this time they needed Bonnie’s help to do it. I don’t think Jeremy really has a choice, in fact I think he’ll be less and less likely to question or criticize Elena from now on – until now, even though he’s her brother, he’s questioned her and stood up to her more than almost anyone else on the show. And now he’s being silenced. Of course that’s not Bonnie’s fault AT ALL, but I thought this was just another example of Damon and Elena fixing the situation to prevent others from questioning Elena, her decisions and actions, and using Bonnie to do it. 😦

    • I think that’s just the show being chicken about letting him express things that he has every right to feel, by saying it’s because of the Hunter’s Curse, when they ARE subconscious thoughts that Jeremy has had all along, he’s just been repressing them.

      The show being chicken hurts me. It would be much more interesting if they let the characters be real and have confrontations. Saying that what Jeremy said came from the Hunter’s Mark makes zero sense because….why was Jeremy talking about things that actually happened. That’s the thing: he didn’t make up any of the things he said. They came from what he experienced.

      What actually sucks for me is that Jeremy doesn’t remember what he said since he was hypnotized, and we know Elena is not going to talk to him about it.

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