4.03: Connor is here to snatch these people up!!!!

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72 thoughts on “4.03: Connor is here to snatch these people up!!!!

  1. I love the Canadian trailer! Love:

    1. Matt giving Rebekah up
    2. Connor telling Jeremy to catch a vamp and if he does he’ll train him. Jeremy better not be a flop. He better catch one.
    3. Connor

    Matt’s going to keep letting Elena feed on him. Whatevs.

    I was going to be blah about this ep, because Bonnie isn’t in it, but now I know how I feel about Connor, and he’s giving me more of what I want than Bonnie is.

    • 1. Matt giving Rebekah up

      How sad am I that this makes me ship them more? Just fits into, if we ignore what’s to come from Rebekah and just imagine she punches him or feeds off of him for retribution (“I thought I should at least have a taste, if I’m being accused.) what I imagine the mess of a “relationship” between them would be.

    • 2. Connor telling Jeremy to catch a vamp and if he does he’ll train him. Jeremy better not be a flop. He better catch one.

      Do you think there will suddenly be a few random nobody vampires in town for Jeremy’s vampire catching sake or do you think they’ll let him catch one of the mains?

      3. Connor

      YES.

  2. I can’t hear what Meredith said. Here’s hoping she only has like 2 scenes.

    Stefan, please stop telling Jeremy how to live his life and go get your own.

    The more they call or refer to Connor as evil, the more I root for him.

    • He better not be. UGH! I’ll be so upset. I want her to stay out of it. She has no business telling someone who is part of a group that is prey to vampires, how they should react.

  3. Matt isn’t here for it. How grand would it be if he was mostly upset because Rebekah tried to kill him and not because she killed Elena. *Sigh.*

    Rebekah wants to party with high school kids? Smh.

  4. I don’t know why this new “do anything to save Elena! Do anything to protect Elena” Matt is getting on my last nerves, but it is. I don’t even like Rebekah, but damn! I liked Matt more when I didn’t know much about him. I hope this is a phase that he gets over and we won’t see him, by season’s end, lying on a sofa with both Salvatores and Elena feeding from his veins as he sacrifices himself up for the greater good. *shudders* Also, Conner being introduced as forcefully as he has been only means that someone important has to die. You can’t introduce a competent, at the very least, vampire hunter that way and not have him score at least one major hit before he’s ultimately defeated. I’m hoping it’s Klaus, tbh. All I know is that I’ve never been happier that my Baby girl is not a Vampire.

    • Because it doesn’t make sense for his character. Because it doesn’t feel like something his character should be doing.

      You can’t introduce a competent, at the very least, vampire hunter that way and not have him score at least one major hit before he’s ultimately defeated. I’m hoping it’s Klaus, tbh.

      I know, right? But that’s what they did with the pastor. I’d love it if Connor killed Klaus. Bonnie just needs to do something to protect Abby…..and her “friends,” I guess, and Connor will kill Klaus. Or he can kill Elijah, I don’t care which one. Because it’s obvious Bonnie’s never going to get to kill anyone as her powers are only useful for one thing: protecting Elena.

  5. That clip is legit hilarious. I am looking forward to the moment when Rebekah gives Matt a new truck and he STILL won’t talk to her. I am looking forward to the moment when Matt tries to get Rebekah killed so she thinks they are even after that but he is like, lol NOPE.

    • I can’t wait, tbh. Like all Matt has left, for me at least, is his ability to be bitchy about the fact he almost died, and like Elena’s death as well I guess, and there’s no reason to forgive Rebekah, so I’m here for this.

  6. Rebekah’s perfect lips and accent and eyes and hair, have to suffer through Matt scenes this week. Oh lord. This is exactly what I didn’t want. We need to cultivate her a new friend or lover or something. Not Matt, never Matt. Bring in Hayley. But lol that Matt clip… like dude… who are you currently dating? Your hand in between the 2 minute break you get at your 57 jobs? But at least he has a reason to be mad. But the fact that we know he’s only mad because he’s alive and Elena’s dead… kinda hurts that.

    • But lol that Matt clip… like dude… who are you currently dating? Your hand in between the 2 minute break you get at your 57 jobs?

      She was willing to kill him in order to kill Elena. I think his hand seems like a pretty safe date right now.

      But the fact that we know he’s only mad because he’s alive and Elena’s dead… kinda hurts that.

      : ( It bothers me, but I’m holding onto the fact that he’ll be mad.

  7. Matt’s a moron. If I was him, I’d ask Rebekah to turn me. Vamp out with her for as long as she’s sane, sweet, and sexy. When she stops wanting me/stops have crazy vamp sex with me, then I’d run the fuck away and live forever somewhere random until she becomes sane again and then tackle pounce her. Rinse and repeat! Not offer her up to be killed.

  8. Oh Damon. Don’t tease me with things I can’t have.

    Look at Stefan looking for excuses to keep Damon around. Wasn’t it his idea that one of them would leave, depending on Elena’s choice? How does her becoming a vamp change things? Basically he wants Damon to stay to lend muscle (and obsession) while watching him be with Elena.

  9. Lol at the new webclip, can´t wait for Stefan and Elena with helmets! The CW promotes save driving, I approve of that, lmao.

    Btw Rebekah talks about a party in that webclip with Matt. So where is this going to take place? In the Mikaelson mansion? Because I can´t wait for those teenagers to destroy all the ugly drawings made by Klaus and then it would be no wonder that Klaus throws her out of the mansion (if he hasn´t already – I don´t know after episode 1) … at first I thought only April would come to the party but maybe there are more guests, who knows.

    • Lmao. I can’t wait for the scene where he’s trying to convince her to ride with him.

      Do you think the party will actually take place? April’s at Rebekah’s house (in her bedroom?) in one still, but I wonder if Rebekah changes her mind about a big party and just invites April over.

      • It is going to be glorious, lol.

        I don´t know but wasn´t there a spoiler that Rebekah soon would be homeless or something and I thought I saw a spoiler about Klaus being not so happy after what she does to his mansion. But it also could have been about her destroying his last Elena blood bags or something. Just so confused.

        We also see Matt and Rebekah in one of those stills … so he is going to be at that “party” aswell.

        Btw is it just me or did Zach lose some weight … or is it because of his new hair cut, lol.

        • I assumed Klaus threw her our because of the blood bags, but you’re right: it sounds like she’s going to do something else to make him throw her out. I’d say telling someone they’re no longer your sister means they can’t lie with you. How stupid will it be if he throws her out because she threw a party and the teenagers trashed his house? Smh.

          I haven’t noticed any weight change, lol. Or a new haircut, tbh.

          • Sorry I got that wrong … apparently she is already homeless and throws the party in her new house/flat. JP tells us this in one of her fabulous interviews.

            Source: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/18/vampire-diaries-blood-sharing-rager/

            You probably posted it already (maybe in the post for episode two) because that stuff with Damon and Elena bloodsharing sounds familiar to me. But if you are reading it for the first time beware JP is fangirling about her favourite topic – Dalaric.

            • Klaus and Rebekah return. What’s their relationship like? “Their relationship will be nonexistent. She is mad at him, and he is mad at her. So she moves out, and the first thing that she does is try to throw a party at her new place even though she’s about the most unpopular girl in school at this point, at least certainly from where our heroes are concerned,” she says. “Meanwhile Klaus, who was perfectly willing to pack his bags and leave town for good, finds a reason that he has to stick around in Mystic Falls, and he’s glad he did, because by the end of the episode, everything changes for him.”

            Why is she the most unpopular girl in school? Because Elena and the gang don´t like her? The other students don´t know about her trying to kill Elena. Or are Elena and Caroline starting a campaign to get everybody against Rebekah?

            • We’ll meet Hayley (guest star Phoebe Tonkin), a werewolf who helped Tyler through the ordeal of breaking his sire-bond to Klaus. She’ll factor into the Tyler-Caroline-Klaus triangle? “The expression of glee that Klaus gets on his face when he realizes that Tyler might have been holding this as a secret from Caroline is priceless,” Plec says. “Klaus is up to no good for a good portion of this season. He’s not on his best behavior. But watching him try to drive a wedge between Caroline and Tyler with just the control of gossip is actually superfun. Of course, Tyler is gonna have to try to take back that power and save his relationship and convince Caroline that she can still trust him.”

            As if Klaus couldn´t get anymore pathetic.

            • Damon and Klaus will question Connor, and according to episode synopsis, “the confrontation takes a lethal turn.” Will we see new forms of torture this season? Plec just laughs. “I will say this season that we blow a lot of s— up,” she teases, “and episode 3 is no exception to that.”

            Nobody will die that´s for sure … at least not one of the recurring characters.
            Do you think that Connor knows about the Originals?

            • I guess the school only consists of 4 people (Matt, Elena, Caroline, and Tyler). Five, if we count Stefan. If Rebekah is the most unpopular girl in school now, then what was she before and why? I’m so happy Bonnie isn’t here to be “extra” mad at Rebekah. She’s Klaus’ sister. How did they expect her to act?

              This triangle is going to be hilariously pathetic.

              For once, it wouldn’t bother me if someone knew about the Originals. Connor is more legit than the Council and Bill. He sees to be part of an order, so I wouldn’t mind. He shouldn’t know about Hybrids though (and didn’t seem to, based on his weapons).

  10. Hayley is coming to town this episode … and I just saw a general spoiler for what she is up to, nothing in particular only something that she will be doing in town:

    Is Phoebe Tonkin going to get between my favorite Vampire Diaries couple, Tyler and Caroline? — Jonah
    NATALIE:
    Fortunately for Team Forwood fans, Tonkin’s character Haley has much more on her mind than hooking up with her old friend Tyler. “Haley isn’t there to do anything bad or mess up anyone’s relationship,” Tonkin tells us. “Haley’s a tomboy; she just likes hanging out with the guys!” So what is she coming to town for then? Adds Tonkin, “She’s trying to find out some things about her past and there are people in Mystic Falls holding onto that information that she wants.” Considering she’s a fellow werewolf, those people better watch out!

    Source: http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Castle-NCIS-Fringe-Spoilers-1055012.aspx

    Of course everything is connected to Mystic Falls.

      • Because Phoebe Tonkin is > than all the guest stars combined and multiplied by ten.

        Maybe they’ll finally keep one alive… But I doubt it. But I can be hopeful. Paul obviously got his wife lady to be kept alive for her .3 scenes of import. Maybe Claire Holt can do the same for Tonkin, only more so.

        • Because Phoebe Tonkin is > than all the guest stars combined and multiplied by ten.

          All the current guest stars or all the guest stars ever? Because Phoebe Tonkin being awesome won’t make Hayley awesome if the writers screw up. Which is something they do a lot of. Screw up, I mean.

          And I’m not sure Claire Holt has the same clout as Paul (considering Paul’s clout can only get his wife .3 seconds of screen time, but it can’t get him a storyline he actually enjoys), since he’s like a regular they have no plans on killing, who is in every episode.

    • Are we meant to believe that the writers care about werewolves now? NOW?

      Considering she’s a fellow werewolf, those people better watch out!

      A fellow werewolf to who? WHO?

      If the writers cared even one red cent about werewolves, maybe I’d believe that whatever we were about to find out about Hayley would matter, but let’s get real. There are no werewolves on this show. We haven’t seen a wolf on this show since 3.02 and that wolf died the way all the other werewolves have died. Horribly. Klaus doesn’t give any shits about his wolf side. Tyler was happy to throw the wolf-side off. So, I don’t know how to get excited about how this storyline will go down. If it goes down. And I don’t trust that she (in the same way that April is being described) has been brought on the show for non-romantic purposes.

      “Haley isn’t there to do anything bad or mess up anyone’s relationship,” Tonkin tells us. “Haley’s a tomboy; she just likes hanging out with the guys!”

      The exclamation point at the end of this has made me imagine Phoebe Tonkin giving a fist pump. Moving forward….??? I don’t see how being a tomboy is going to prevent Hayley from 1) doing anything bad or 2) messing up anyone’s relationship. Or what “hanging out with the guys” will entail, considering Caroline doesn’t even like other girl’s talking about pencils to the boys she likes, let alone hanging out with them. But I’ll give Phoebe the same “these poor actors have to sell so much bullshit” pass I give everyone else.

      The next part makes more sense. Though everyone having a mysterious past tied to Mystic Falls and the people in it is seriously a load of bullshit, but what can you do? It’s TVD.

      • Not a fellow werewolf to Tyler. Last I checked, he didn’t like being a werewolf. I can’t even remember the last time he talked about—– Oh yeah, he talked about them when he gave them up to Elena and wasn’t worried that Klaus was trying to find a pack of werewolves. Tyler is more vampire than werewolf now, lbr. He hasn’t shifted just because since he became a Hybrid. I wish Hayley looked down on him. What happened to the vampire/werewolf rivalry?

        considering Caroline doesn’t even like other girl’s talking about pencils to the boys she likes, let alone hanging out with them.

        Lmao. Apparently only girly girls ruin other people’s relationships? There are no boys for Hayley to hang out with: Caroline will snatch her if she hangs out with Tyler, Jeremy isn’t into having friends like that, Matt already has girl friends and he’s presently attached to Elena, Klaus is Klaus, and Damon and Stefan don’t care. What boys?

        • Maybe Tom Boy secretly means ‘likes girls’ but the way it seems… I highly doubt that. She’s more than 99% likely to break up Tyler/Carolin to push forward Klaus/Caroline for the later half of this season.

  11. Why is Rebekah so thirst? Does Matt remind her of Klaus? (OMG Matt/Caroline has new levels now!)
    WTF does madiline meridith say? what about evil?

    If they have Connor in chains … DX the show would do it.

  12. Here is the canadian promo … always better than the US promo:

    I have a feeling that Connor will inject Rebekah that werewolf venom he got from Tyler (didn´t Damon say that in that one webclip). We also see Klaus biting in his wrist maybe Rebekah has to come to him and plead for help.

    Also what is this about Elena seeing Damon while having sex with Stefan? Do you think this is about her drinking his blood?

    Also in regards to that I went through the JP tag on tumblr and found a quote of her and wanted to ask you if this is legit, because I couldn´t find a source. Maybe she said it in an video interview or something but it makes what Damon did last episode even grosser (the same goes for that Klaus/Caroline scene) if it is true.

    “Once a vampire drinks another vampire’s blood they are connected to them forever” – Julie Plec

    Also if Elena seeing Damon while having sex with Stefan has something to do with her drinking his blood, where was that scene of Klaus/Stefan after 3×02 when he drank his blood or what about Mikael and all those numerous vampires he drank from.

    • Yeah, Damon did say that. You know, I know they’ve already said that a Hybrid bite can kill a vampire. But if that is the case, then how can a vampire/werewolf Hybrid exist? Shouldn’t the venom poison their bodies? I suppose Elena’s blood could be the cure for that, but how so when there’s no magic involved?

      I definitely think this is about her drinking his blood, and if that’s the case then it blows what Olu said on the podcast out of the water. Because then a vamp should be connected to another vamp whether the drink the blood straight from the wrist or not. And yeah, why the heck didn’t this happen to Caroline? Don’t tell me it’s because he’s a Hybrid.

      I don’t know where that quote is from, but I have seen it. And it does make what Damon did gross. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the episode, but if this is the effect, then he should’ve told Elena.

      Thank you for posting this!

      • Yeah, Damon did say that. You know, I know they’ve already said that a Hybrid bite can kill a vampire. But if that is the case, then how can a vampire/werewolf Hybrid exist? Shouldn’t the venom poison their bodies?

        Hm don´t know … don´t think the writers thought about that. Maybe the werewolf part keeps them alive.

        Btw how does Connor get Tyler´s venom anyway. Where is the venom of a werewolf?
        Is it in his blood or only in his teeth when he transitions? Do you think we are going to see Connor getting that venom from Tyler onscreen or will they just let Damon mention it and then they don´t have to explain how he got it?

        Do you remember when Katherine drank from Mason in season 2. Was this supposed to built up some resistance for the werewolf venom? Or was their a different reason for it?
        But if it is in the blood it can´t be in high concentration because if so then werewolves would be more dangerous for vampires, they could put their blood into the blood supply of the vampires or something (or even let them drink from then because vampires can´t sense werewolves) and therefore kill them … maybe Connor has a hunter laboratory in his backpack and uses Tyler´s blood (if it his blood that has the venom in it) and creates a higher concentrated substance of the venom. He seems to be very skilled, I would think he is able to do that.
        Or he triggers Tyler to transform and “milks” him like a snake … but that just sounds so weird, lol.

        • But he werewolf part would be/should be poisoning the vampire part. Even if it’s in their teeth and not their blood, that’s still their genetic make-up.

          I hope we see it. I wanna see Connor do his thing.

          I think she was just drinking from him, right?

          Lol @ Connor milking Tyler like a snake. I thought the same thing.

      • You know, I know they’ve already said that a Hybrid bite can kill a vampire. But if that is the case, then how can a vampire/werewolf Hybrid exist? Shouldn’t the venom poison their bodies?

        Here is where I believe they have screwed up. We don’t know why Hybrids are strong. We know why Klaus is strong, but his hybrids aren’t really. I used to think that the weakness in one being cancelled out the weaknesses in the other. So the vampire in a Hybrid would protect against transitions during the full moon and wolfsbane and the werewolf in a Hybrid would protect against vervaine, stakes to the chest, etc. This is obviously not the case after the premiere. But I do still think that all the Hybrids started out as werewolves and what Elena’s blood does is keep them werewolves. So they can’t be poisoned by a werewolf bite. That may have been what was actually going wrong in The Hybrid. The newly made Hybrids were being poisoned in transition, by their own blood. Which would actually put a new spin on Esther doing the sacrifice to make Klaus’s wolf dormant, but then again she also knew (for arguments sake) how to allow him to be both and would not. I don’t know, I’m starting to confuse myself.

    • Also if Elena seeing Damon while having sex with Stefan has something to do with her drinking his blood, where was that scene of Klaus/Stefan after 3×02 when he drank his blood

      ) : On the plus “this has yet to happen” reading of events, Stefan hasn’t had any sex since Klaus gave him his blood. And, for all we know, Stefan would probably be like “huh?” and then keep going. (I fully stand by the belief that Klaus has given Stefan blood before. Because he would.)

      It’s really gross if Damon did it knowing this would happen and I’m actually a bit confused by it since if he was willing to not inform Elena then why not just get into her dreams like he did to Stefan and Elena in the beginning of s1? More likely the writers just don’t care about the implications. Not for Damon, which it would still be in character for him, but not for any of the other vampires as well.

  13. Omgosh this was incredible. Rebekah smeared blood all over Elena’s face, stabbed her with a pencil, threw away her sunlight ring, OMFG sooo thought she killed Matt for a second! Ugh Woulda been perfect.

  14. Vote on the poll! Do you think Tyler cheated?

    Rebekah rocked my socks in this episode! Where was this last season?! I loved everything she did. Not that I wanted Elena hurt, but I just loved seeing someone who was just not there for her.

    Elena was good-ish. Her lines hurt my ears. The motorcycle scene was good, for her reaction alone. It was nice to see her smile. If the writers saw Bonnie as a human, they’d write stuff like that for her too.

    What is Stefan? I’ve decided he’s Elena’s father.

    There were so many logic leaps in this episode and interactions that made no sense. Why does Damon have Tyler’s number? Why would he invite him?

    I can’t with Matt getting compelled. Elena is the worst. The worst.

    What is Meredith? None of what she said made sense. She is truly a stand-in.

    Hayley was unremarkable.

    Connor was good. Him not knowing his history is both interesting and sketchy, from a storytelling standpoint.

    • Hayley’s scene with Klaus was great. Hayley’s scene with Tyler was lackluster. Why did Klaus save the vamp hunter dude? Why does the vamp hunter dude not know ‘his past’? Why is he valuable!?! By the title of the next ep i’m assuming it will all be about explaining it! But the promo was all about Damon and Elena… so who knows.

    • Do you believe Tyler cheated? … gurl I do not care! lol It probably happened during a full moon. they have wolf sex and … IDK.I want him to have cheated because I miss asshole tyler back.

      • Lol! It would be nice if he did cheat, because it would be indicative of his old personality. I’ve seen some people say it’s ooc for Tyler to cheat, just like it was for Jeremy. I disagree. Tyler is ooc RIGHT NOW and has been since he came back from Florida with Jules. I said when I was talking about Ghost World on the podcast that the one guy I could see cheating, among the teen boys, was Tyler.

  15. This episode wasn’t too bad. My only real issue was with Stefan, but I’m starting to accept this as a fact of life. Rebekah won my heart. It makes me wish the writers had been a bit more consistent with her last year, because I get her now? In a way that I didn’t before. And Claire has been bringing her A-game so far this season. Also I think Rebekah’s hallucination is some of the best acting that Zach has done since s1, if not the best.

  16. I think Hayley is related to Tyler and I discussed a speculation about Hayley with a Forwood fan when that information about her came out … but back then I thought the writers wouldn´t do that, now I don´t know anymore.
    Look how she eyed those family pictures in that one scene before Klaus entered the room. Possible foreshadowing? Maybe she is Tyler´s half-sister or something. I could see Richard cheating on Carol and that´s why she is a werewolf because he is the Lockwood in the family.

    And I have a question about Matt. Did he ever drank vervain? I thought he would after what happened with Katherine in season 2 also because of them putting vervain in the coffee in the Mystic Grill.
    And why is nobody supervising when Elena drinks from Matt? Are those people crazy? Caroline just saw that she wanted to attack April and they leave her alone with Matt. Where is this random protective behaviour we got from Caroline in episode 20 where she said Matt should stay away from Elena? It´s gone again.

    Rebekah was my favourite part of the episode. But what about the venom? Is it still in her body and she also has to drink Klaus blood or is it getting out of her system because she is an Original?
    Btw really liked that scene with Matt we saw as her hallucination.

    I still don´t care about April and again we got more of her grief than we got for Bonnie.

    And also no obligatory mention of Bonnie, that´s at least something we always got when she wasn´t in the episode.

    What is it about making Elena connected to all the mythological stuff. Why is she now interesting for Klaus again? Are “The Five” able to turn her back into a human or something? Please no.
    It´s sad that Connor doesn´t know his history, I really dislike that. So he is carving that sign in all of his stakes but doesn´t even know what it really means?

    I´m also not understanding all that Jeremy/Damon and Tyler/Damon stuff and I´m not interested in them bonding with this guy. It never does any good for a character to be “friends” with Damon. Same goes for Meredith … why is she even here.
    I thought Jeremy´s storyline would pick up in episode 2 and 3. But we got nothing. He wasn´t even interested in what Connor could offer.

    I really hope Connor kills Klaus in the end. I´m fed up with this pathetic and self-adulation behaviour He is not the big deal. The same goes for Damon – how they gratulated themselves about their badass-ness in that store room was so not what I wanted to see
    And what about his vengeance? He was screaming at those people like always but in the end he does nothing anyways. It´s just so pathetic.

    Caroline has no real storyline. Do you think it will get better or is her only purpose her to reassure people and to be chained to this new love triangle?

    I think they are doing a good job with Elena and her transition (I just don´t like this retcon stuff and her only being able to drink blood from the vein) but I´m not feeling Nina´s acting at the moment at all.
    Damon has it always best … but that´s no surprise. Would be better for me if I was as interested in his character as JP is.
    It´s weird that we were supposed to see so much sex in this episode (I remember a tweet of Jose Molina after reading the skript for episode 3) and in the end that pairing that attempts to have sex doesn´t even take it´s shirt off, but it is Damon that does.

    • Also in regards to Klaus wanting protect Tyler. That would be all understandable if he sees him as something special because he is the first hybrid he succeedly created but that´s not how it is portrayed so why is he bringing other hybrids (because only because of that Hayley knows of Tyler being alive) as his bodyguards? If Connor attacks again and one of those hybrids is in the way what would stop him from killing them? So a (or even more) hybrid(s) would die in protection of another one. Still one hybrid less of this endagered “breed” … Klaus wouldn´t win anything.
      If Klaus really would be that clever villain he thinks he is then he would have turned some random vampires as protection for Tyler.

      • why is he bringing other hybrids (because only because of that Hayley knows of Tyler being alive) as his bodyguards? If Connor attacks again and one of those hybrids is in the way what would stop him from killing them?

        This. Klaus wanting to protect Tyler because he’s a Hybrid makes sense to me for the reason he said. But using other Hybrids to do it? That defeats the purpose of why he wants to protect Tyler. If only he was competent enough to have vampires in his service, like you said, then he could use them to protect his Hybrids. What was the point of Tyler breaking Klaus’ bond if he’s basically still doing what Klaus tells him, still under his influence, and still thought of as Klaus’? What was the point?

        Someone asked why Connor didn’t kill Tyler in the hospital. *Sigh.* So really now, both Damon and Tyler should be dead.

    • I think Hayley is related to Tyler and I discussed a speculation about Hayley with a Forwood fan when that information about her came out … but back then I thought the writers wouldn´t do that, now I don´t know anymore.

      That would be a twist. I can see Richard cheating on Carol too.

      Where is this random protective behaviour we got from Caroline in episode 20 where she said Matt should stay away from Elena? It´s gone again.

      It is gone again. I would think she’d at least give Matt one more speech. He wouldn’t take well to it, and maybe it’s better she doesn’t, but I don’t know she wouldn’t try. And yes, Matt/Elena should be supervised. I think Elena’s surpassed Caroline as attaining the most control the quickest. Because Elena has a heck of a lot of control. She didn’t even eat that girl in the bathroom or even attack her. She’s in control; she’s just very hungry.

      But what about the venom? Is it still in her body and she also has to drink Klaus blood or is it getting out of her system because she is an Original?

      Who knows? She just magically got better because the episode needed to wrap-up. They didn’t say why her illusions stopped.

      April and her grief are still irrelevant. Who just walks into someone’s bedroom like that?

      And also no obligatory mention of Bonnie, that´s at least something we always got when she wasn´t in the episode.

      We didn’t always get that. We only got one mention while she was absent in season 1. None in season 2, that I remember.

      Why is she now interesting for Klaus again? Are “The Five” able to turn her back into a human or something? Please no.
      It´s sad that Connor doesn´t know his history, I really dislike that. So he is carving that sign in all of his stakes but doesn´t even know what it really means?

      I’m pretty sure she is connected to The Five. It’s so tiring. Connor not knowing his past makes little sense. Where does he think the tattoo’s from? How does he know what it means for Jeremy to see it? How did he get started as a hunter? What does he think the symbols he carves means? Why is yet another White male (vampire) going to tell us about a non-vampire? Why couldn’t Connor know, have Jeremy stop being a loser and want to learn from him, and Connor would be the one to tell Jeremy the story next episode?

      I´m also not understanding all that Jeremy/Damon and Tyler/Damon stuff and I´m not interested in them bonding with this guy. It never does any good for a character to be “friends” with Damon. Same goes for Meredith … why is she even here.

      It also never makes any sense.

      The same goes for Damon – how they gratulated themselves about their badass-ness in that store room was so not what I wanted to see

      And then he tells Jeremy that badasses don’t call themselves badasses. Sure.

      Caroline has no real storyline. Do you think it will get better or is her only purpose her to reassure people and to be chained to this new love triangle?

      Her real purpose is to comment on people’s lives, and sometimes that includes Bonnie, and be chained to the new triangle. It’s not gonna change. Maybe at the end of the season when the triangle dries up, but I think she’ll spend the majority of the season just as she is now.

      Damon has it always best … but that´s no surprise. Would be better for me if I was as interested in his character as JP is.

      I know, right? Damon, as a character, doesn’t have the ability to satisfy me or make me happy or even entertain me. Heck, Rebekah entertained in this episode more than Damon’s done since the first time I watched Plan B.

  17. lol I liked the episode better because I wasn’t worried about how far they would drag Bonnie down into a their mess. It was the first time I was relaxed watching an episode because I have little to no attachment to any other character. A few things stood out to me:

    1.) I’m over December. I’m over her. I can already see the Rebekah/December thing taking off and annoying the crap out of me because it’s going to be all over Tumblr. That relationship makes no sense to me, at all, and December’s random willingness to share personal feelings to a stranger makes even less sense. But the almighty Elena has deemed her worthy of her concern and protection so I just know that December will be here to stay.

    2.) I’m not impressed with the Tyler/Hayley chemistry. I’m not impressed with Hayley. I said in a post on Tumblr that she came off more as a caricature. Nothing seemed particularly real or derivative of a genuine place/emotion, it just feels like a rehash of the character Phoebe played in SC. I did kind of see some sparks between her and Klaus, though. If only they weren’t tied to the entire ‘Klaroline’ thing, they aren’t even considering the possibility of Klaus with anyone else.

    3.) Elena is a fool. She’s a fool and she’s terrible and the only compassion I’ve seen her have is for her damn self. I am not looking forward to every episode being dedicated to a new emotion she’s going through. Episode 3 was brought to you by the feeling ‘RAGE’ episode 4 will be ‘Seduction’ or ‘HUNGER’. Not looking forward to it. And her random friendship with December when she’s got Bonnie, Caroline, Matt and Tyler who all needs her and could benefit from some compassion? yeah..

    4.) I did like Stefan and Caroline. I didn’t think I would because I was one of the bitter fans upset that they abandoned season 1 Stefan/Bonnie in favor of Stefan/Caroline, but I liked them. I loved Stefan’s appreciation and respect for Caroline, as well as his acknowledgment of her continued “success” as a Vampire. I loved Caroline’s support and gratitude to Stefan. They felt really genuine. Not in a ‘I ship it!’ sort of way, but in a “It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a 2-sided friendship on this show”. Their connection will probably be the best example of friendship we’re going to get this season.

    5.) Poor Matt. Poor poor Matt. I feel rather strongly that Elena and her posse are using Matt’s guilt over being alive (HE’S GUILTY FOR BEING ALIVE) as a means to blackmail him into allowing Elena to feed off him. I don’t know if we were supposed to feel disgusted watching her feed off of him, because it damn sure didn’t endear her to me. Matt is a means to an end, sustanence, a blood bag. Elena has little to no regard for him, or how he feels being used that way, and didn’t even flinch when Damon compelled him to forget. She didn’t even flinch. UGH. He was dismissed and she continued on with her narration of how bad her life is. I hate that and I’m trying not to blame Matt, but his attitude is grating. Dude, get over it! In a round about way it’s Elena’s fault that their lives were in danger in the first place.

    That’s all I got for now. All in all, It was more of the same from TVD.

    • DECEMBER!!! *Dies* She’s so open to sharing her grief with people. She doesn’t even know Rebekah. It’s like she’s LOOKING for people to feel sorry for her. It would be funny if this was all part of some plan to get more attention than Elena. Lol.

      They have no chemistry. And speaking of caricatures, did you see her do the Official Gesture of the Tomboys? She punched Tyler in the chest. We all know that’s what marks someone as a tomboy. Rme.

      Why should she show Matt compassion when it’s more fun to eat from him and then have him compelled? Elena at her finest. I’ve liked Elena in these episodes, but you know from the podcasts that I have a special relationship with her.

      As long as we ignore her complete lack of opinion on him being a Ripper. Eh. This friendship has ever meant much to me. I liked it in the beginning of season 3, but then I just got over it. The scene was nice for what it was.

      All of this. I was like, “That’s what you get, Matt!” And then for Elena, I was surprised. Not surprised that she condoned it, but surprised about her utter lack of respect for her friends. I’ll never get used to how much she just doesn’t respect her friends or her brother. What would Matt have done if had kept his memory of Elena trying to kill him? We’ll never know.

  18. Oh and just because my post felt too negative, let me say that I did enjoy Rebekah (she’s turning into my second favorite character) and I always enjoy Connor. Also, it was the first time that I kind of “got” the whole Delena thing.

  19. Lol I just rewatched that Klefan scene and Klaus says “What would you have down if I no longer were here” – with that he could mean that if he had left the town but directly after that he says – “If you and your friends had succeeded in ridding the world of me”. They would no longer care because they would be dead like you because you sired their bloodline, you idiot.
    Are those writers even thinking about anything that happened last season or is this foreshadowing that Klaus didn´t sire their bloodline?

    Also I had to laugh because Klaus said to Tyler that he was halfway to Chicago and now I have to imagine Klaus sitting in the bar that Gloria owned and thinking about the good times with Stefan in the 20s. Lmao this guy is so pathetic.

    • They would no longer care because they would be dead like you because you sired their bloodline, you idiot.

      That’s so true! It’s not one of the lines we questioned on the podcast, but thanks!

      Or better yet, he’d be sitting in Stefan’s old apartment. Lmao.

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