The only thing I want to see is the Bonnie/Klaus scene. But you guys want to know my dominant thought? I want them to kill Bonnie off.

It’s better than watching this insult. I’m tired. I saw nothing of the character I stan for in 3.17. Not even a shadow of her former self. Shows are supposed to hit their stride in the 3rd season, but this one is tanking.

Synopsis. It gives me heartburn to think the “someone close to Bonnie” might seriously, without a hint of a joke, be Jaime. If it’s Elena or anyone not Abby or Jaime (however ridiculous it is), this might honestly be my last episode.

Stills. Pretty much everyone who will be in this episode is in the stills except for Bonnie and Jaime, the two Black extras *___*.

Promo

Canadian Promo

Extended Promo I was just reminded that Caroline Dries wrote this. It’s been a long time since Miss Mystic Falls. *Sigh.*

Did anyone catch from the trailer that Alaric’s about to get effed up? Because I Didn’t. And that last one can’t be from 3.18. Unless she took the picture and waited until the episode was coming up to release it. It’s possible.

Webclip

Delena still

Episode poster Stop it, CW.

<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3waWmzrzOYA”&gt; Julie Plec previews the episode </a> There’s nothing special about it, as usual. The best part was Klaus at the end. He’s still so lame, but I’m looking forward to him. Lol.

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94 thoughts on “The only thing I want to see is the Bonnie/Klaus scene. But you guys want to know my dominant thought? I want them to kill Bonnie off.

    • This. Bonnie was off screen most of the time, this scene could have been off screen too.

      Btw Cana I saw that you posted a Bonnie fanmix on the witchgoddess livejournal and I know that I´m late but I just wanted to tell you that I love it because I don´t have a livejournal account and I wanted to tell you this personally! Amazing work.

      • 😀 omgoodness! I feel like I’ve smiled for the first time today. Thank you so much! Making fanmixes for witches on this show I feel is my best work.

        Thank you so much Kat! This make my day so much better! <3_<3

    • I am really hoping that this is like the Gilbert device situation. Bonnie always forgives Elena *rme* and nothing is ever Elena’s fault but she is sneaky in her revenge on other people. She was sneaky when she messed with Luka.

      • That would make me very happy. Maybe she told Elena she forgave her because she didn’t know what else to say. What do you say when the person you grew up with and loved is used as an excuse to her hurt you? If she did something like the Gilbert situation again, then it obviously wouldn’t be the high road and it would be “worse” since she’s not some confused newbie witch anymore, but she’d at least be reacting. Which is what I neeeeeeed!

  1. Word to everything, the ony scenes that I am interested in is Klaus/Bonnie the fact that this ep seems dedicated to the white oak stakes and killing the originals again which Im sure will fail again the ep willl be underwhelming like most of the eps this season.

    Also I agree with you I do not want Kat to be unemployed and I know how much she loves TVD and the opportunities it has given her but seriously just :sigh: they need to kill Bonnie off. Kat is a hard core worker so I am sure she will be fine and land hopefully a better show. But seriously the writers clearly dont care JP hates Bonnie as well as Bonnie fans so maybe it will be better. Also then she will not have to be in great distress and go to Matt about the Bonnie fans:rollseyes:

    Also apprantely from the chat, JP was asked who she likes writing for the most and she said Damon, Alaric and surprise surprise everyone Caroline seriously just..I lol IDk anymore just lol.

    • There’s no tension. We already know they’ll fail, so the only point will be watching how much screen time is wasted on it.

      I’m also weirdly looking forward to seeing Klaus again. I think I’ve missed him?

      Also then she will not have to be in great distress and go to Matt about the Bonnie fans:rollseyes:

      This. There are only benefits to her killing Bonnie off. Obviously her personal health would improve, rme. Then she’d only have to do with the passionate TVD fans.

      I just posted that in the TwitterGate thread. Like…why Caroline and not Elena? That kind of makes zero sense to me, but I’ve known since season two that that character was just a medium for her wish fulfillment fantasies. Like most of Fandom, she likes the Salvatores more than she likes Elena.

      Why the hell did KW leave this show again?

      • ”I’m also weirdly looking forward to seeing Klaus again. I think I’ve missed him?”

        I just miss JM.

        ”This. There are only benefits to her killing Bonnie off. Obviously her personal health would improve, rme. Then she’d only have to do with the passionate TVD fans.”

        Exactly her health will improve, she will get rid of Bonnie who she doesnt like and has no motivation to write for and she will get rid of the crazy part of the fandom that loves to play the race card, seriously though what is she waiting for??

        ”I just posted that in the TwitterGate thread. Like…why Caroline and not Elena? That kind of makes zero sense to me, but I’ve known since season two that that character was just a medium for her wish fulfillment fantasies. Like most of Fandom, she likes the Salvatores more than she likes Elena.”

        I dont know if I am surprised Caroline is her favourite clearly, I think she is 50/50 on Elena and a few other characters it is Bonnie she hates writing for.
        I am surprised at Alaric though lol also with everything that happened wouldnt it have been better she said she likes writing for all the characters lol this is not helping with the Bonnie fans oh yeah she doesnt care ok.

        ”Why the hell did KW leave this show again?”

        Well he helped, TSC for a few eps and now he has a new show so I guess he is focusing on that so JP has full control the joy.

        • I think it’s because of something I keep saying when it comes to Klaus: he should be more in the background. Unlike after the 3.09 hiatus, he wasn’t in 3.16, and he’s absent in this episode. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Especially when the villain’s as lame as he is.

          I’m surprised about Alaric too. Like damn, not even Stefan?

          Yeah, but why was he even looking at other shows? JP wasn’t. And what if his latest show fails? And I kind of hope he does and he comes back to TVD.

          • Lol you are right, I have been wondering where he was while Rebecca is being obvious and having threesomes lol
            Also why is Rebecca getting so much screen time? Im sure JPs favourite is Caroline and Rebecca.

            Right? lol but looking at the ”Rippah” sl and the bloodlust hmm.
            Clearly JP is just writing as she goes along, do they even plan seasons out?

            Lol well hopefully Bonnie will still be around:rolleyes: actually who knows what JP would have done to her character by the time KW comes back.

            Im so surprised on some forums I feel like people have barely posted on the ep, Twop usally has like 10pgs by now.

            • I’m not sure why she’s getting screen time either. It’s like they can’t tell which characters are important. I wish Bonnie had the luxury of spending a whole episode asking about a damn tree.

              She said she doesn’t plan the seasons out.

              Word.

              I know. Last I went on, they only had two pages. And that was at 11pm.

              • I’m not sure why she’s getting screen time either. It’s like they can’t tell which characters are important.

                But as much screentime as she gets it doesn´t benefit her character. She gets constantly dumbed down by the men around her and also Elena. She doesn´t look like a 1000 years old vampire but like a bad season 1 version of Caroline. What was this scene with Damon while Sage creeped in the background. “I don´t want her, I want you” blech.
                I really don´t hope that they will take her into season 4, but I can totally see it happening.

                • True. Like, I’m sick of her being made fun of and pining and just…ugh. It’s like Klaus, really.

                  How did she not feel Sage on the bed? Whut? I’d think vampires would be sensitive sleepers.

              • I love how you can always tell if fans are abandoning a tv show, based on how many pages of TWOP posts after the eps… If you compare from one season to the next, you can see an obvious decline. (This was very noticeable with Smallville.) I take sadistic glee in this and like to think TVD’s losing tons of viewers …too bad The CW keeps shows with abysmal ratings that no other network would tolerate.

                I’d feel sorry for some of the actors losing their jobs but at the same time… I can’t help wanting sexist, racist, badly written shows to be cancelled.

        • Well he helped, TSC for a few eps and now he has a new show so I guess he is focusing on that so JP has full control the joy.

          But we can´t blame all of this on JP because like we discussed awhile ago Caroline Dries gets more and more power this season. She wrote 6(!) episodes this season … I just checked her wikia page on TVD and my greatest fear that she would write another episode after episode 18 came true. She also wrote episode 21, I only saw rumours about going around but now it seems legit. Urgh. I can´t stand her episodes.

          I want Bonnie dead too and perhaps she really gets killed off in this season final (although I didn´t think they would kill another regular female character this season) because Kat was really quiet in regards to the final script and TVD in general.
          I really want to see her face on screen but if this show treats her like this then please write her off.

          • I know what you mean but it would suck for them to kill off yet *another* black person and female character… But I can understand wanting Kat to be free for other, hopefully better, projects. And I’m sure it would be easier to quit the show if she was gone.

            Different situation but I used to wish for Allison Mack’s character on Smallville to be killed off. 😛 After initially *really not* wanting her killed and worrying every time they put her in danger. But she was my fav actress there and after awhile I thought “let her go! She deserves better! She’s wasting her life on this show that’s so beneath her!” …plus the desire to be free myself, and not have to suffer through the rest of the crap just to watch Chloe…and see her treated badly. Eventually I quit anyway and only watched & read about her scenes.

            So yeah, I understand why many of you have reached this point of wanting Bonnie dead. Still sad though. :/

            • P.S. … and we’re only on season 3 of The Vampire Diaries! 😮 Wow, we’ve already reached the limits of our crap-tolerance. Does this mean TVD is even worse than Smallville? 😉

            • But she was my fav actress there and after awhile I thought “let her go! She deserves better! She’s wasting her life on this show that’s so beneath her!” …plus the desire to be free myself, and not have to suffer through the rest of the crap just to watch Chloe…and see her treated badly. Eventually I quit anyway and only watched & read about her scenes.

              *high_five* She was my fave too but like you I eventually gave up on this show. I don´t know when but they stopped airing it in germany and I only watched the other episodes with her in it when they show was cancelled/came to an end.

          • The thing is JP is the head writer and producer of the show so she does oversee what is being written, but you are right Caroline Dries eps have not exactly been my favourite I feel like she also loves the angsty shipper scenes urgh.
            I think the only writer so far that has been cosistant is Michael Narducci. he should have wrote the reamining eps.

      • There’s no tension. We already know they’ll fail, so the only point will be watching how much screen time is wasted on it.

        I think they will probably kill Finn … that´s their success for this episode, the most harmless out of this family.
        And I can also see them killing Sage, because then the loved ones would be reunited forever. “My one true love” Urgh.

        • The one who wants to die? Oh yeah, that’ll be a big win, and the twisty twist will be them realizing that Finn’s not connected to his siblings. I’d actually enjoy this twist if it went further and they found out it was Bonnie who unbound the spell. And I do not want Bonnie to apologize. I want her to say she did it not only to save Jaime, but because she can use Klaus. But that’s just me speaking of things that will never happen because JP is creatively blocked when it comes to Bonnie.

          Yeah, I’m pretty sure Sage isn’t long for this show. If Finn dies, there’s nothing for her to do. I won’t be moved by her crying when I was jipped in Bonnie’s perspective being ignored after her mother was killed. But I wonder if they’ll let her walk out of MF. I think they might. But since Abby just walked, they might feel the need to kill her.

          • The one who wants to die? Oh yeah, that’ll be a big win, and the twisty twist will be them realizing that Finn’s not connected to his siblings. I’d actually enjoy this twist if it went further and they found out it was Bonnie who unbound the spell. And I do not want Bonnie to apologize. I want her to say she did it not only to save Jaime, but because she can use Klaus. But that’s just me speaking of things that will never happen because JP is creatively blocked when it comes to Bonnie.

            Lmao *laughing not to cry*. I can´t wait and I would love if this happens but I have the fear that Bonnie will only be there for the spell and then magically disappear.
            Where is the plenty of storyline JP spoke about if she isn´t even in the american promo but only in the canadian. Are the canadian promo maker the only Bonnie fans in the CW promotion?

            • Yes. Yes they are. The Canadian promo editors understand magic tends to mean action. The CW, on the other hand, doesn’t see sexiness so they leave it out.

  2. OMG did you see the torture porn in the US promo? Unbelievable … the Damon stans will be tearing up for him and in the end Rebekah will be the loser again. It´s so predictable.
    And that (almost?) kiss between Elena and Damon probably will happen when they free Damon from his torture session with Rebekah … hopefully they don´t go this far and make Elena give him her blood. But the fangirls would be in heaven after this.
    Elena I think you lost me forever after the last episode, don´t know if she is redeemable in my eyes.

    I think it is clear what spell Klaus wants Bonnie to do for him. She has to unbind the siblings. That´s the only thing I´m looking forward … and the person that Klaus will threatening is Jamie for sure, I thought it would be Abby, but after this I can only see Jamie how ridiculous it is.
    I hope JoMo delivers some of his sexual frustration that Bonnie isn´t his love interest on screen. I want to see some tension between them, pleaaaaaaase.

    A quick question why do they invite Matt into this whole mission? Are Stefan and Damon not able to kill the Originals? I thought that being killed when staking an Original if you are a demon only was relevant because of the dagger – that is cursed in some way. So now also the White Oak Tree can´t be used by the vampires?

    I rolled my eyes at Elena in the promo when the brothers told her that they have a weapon to kill an Original.
    That´s no big news … they always find a new weapon to kill an Original. They really dumb down their own characters.

    • ”And that (almost?) kiss between Elena and Damon probably will happen when they free Damon from his torture session with Rebekah”

      Is it Elena? IDK I cannot really tell, but if it not surprised there is has to be an almost kiss happening near the end of the season.

      ”I hope JoMo delivers some of his sexual frustration that Bonnie isn´t his love interest on screen. I want to see some tension between them, pleaaaaaaase.”

      Loool I am with you, would not be surprised if he did lol.

      ”A quick question why do they invite Matt into this whole mission? Are Stefan and Damon not able to kill the Originals?”
      This I mean isnt he even in more danger, why invilve him when he is most likely going to end up hurt. Also Elena is there is she is in danger and Matt is in danger well bye Matt.

      • Also Elena is there if she is in danger and Matt is in danger well bye Matt.

        Lmao. He must be new or he didn´t understand what Bonnie told him about her mother.
        But still … Stefan, Damon and Caroline can´t stake the Originals with the White Oak Tree stakes because they are demons or was it only the dagger that was cursed to kill every demon that used it on another vampire? Where is the explaination show … get it together. Urgh

        • For real. He must think that just because he cares about Elena, that means he’ll be safe, that her love for him will protect him. Matt, you better take a second look at Bonnie.

          Dang, you guys are confusing me. I thought the daggers were dipped in White Oak and that’s why they’d hurt vampires. They were cursed? So why was Klaus handling one and Mikael said the Salvatores couldn’t? How can the vampires hold white oak, yet it kills them when it’s inside them? For example, they hold vervain and it hurts just like when they ingest it.

          • Dang, you guys are confusing me. I thought the daggers were dipped in White Oak and that’s why they’d hurt vampires. They were cursed? So why was Klaus handling one and Mikael said the Salvatores couldn’t? How can the vampires hold white oak, yet it kills them when it’s inside them? For example, they hold vervain and it hurts just like when they ingest it.

            I don´t know if they were cursed but I thought because they were made by witches they would include something so that no demons could use it … because of keeping the balance or something. I don´t know why I thought it was because of the dagger but I thought this from the start.

            Elena found it in the Gilbert diaries and they start speaking about it after 6:30:

            Elena only says “It must be brandished by humans alone because it brings death to all demons who wield it” – that is why I probably thought it is because of the dagger.
            But they don´t clarify it or do they speak about it another time?

            • You’re right, they did say only humans can handle it. So again, why was Klaus able to hold one to stab Elijah? Why were Damon and Elijah able to touch them to unstab the other Originals? Why do I think the writers have a detailed show bible?

    • OMG did you see the torture porn in the US promo?

      Just wanted to add to my comment that it is promoted like he is Jesus with him hanging there … is he going to die for our sins? Roll-Eyes on repeat.

    • Oh that was Elena? It went by so freaking fast I couldn’t tell who he was about to kiss.

      I hope JoMo delivers some of his sexual frustration that Bonnie isn´t his love interest on screen. I want to see some tension between them, pleaaaaaaase.

      Yes!!!! Don’t ask me to elaborate :P, but I think me missing Klaus is also making me have Klonnie feels. Anyway, I’m sure it’ll be gone by the time the episode ends *____*. Maybe even by the time the scene ends, depending on how gross they have Klaus be with Bonnie while she just takes it. She’s taking everything else. Ugh.

      Instead of Stefan, they should have had Matt and Elena going to get Alaric’s ring.

      They couldn’t handle the dagger because of the fact that it was dipped in the White Oak Tree. But wait, Damon was wielding a stake made from the Oak Tree in Homecoming. I don’t get it.

      They do dumb them down. “You have a weapon to kill the Originals?” And it’s always the Salvatores telling everyone else that there’s a new damn weapon.

      • Oh that was Elena? It went by so freaking fast I couldn’t tell who he was about to kiss.

        I´m almost certain it´s her.

        Yes!!!! Don’t ask me to elaborate 😛 , but I think me missing Klaus is also making me have Klonnie feels. Anyway, I’m sure it’ll be gone by the time the episode ends *____*. Maybe even by the time the scene ends, depending on how gross they have Klaus be with Bonnie while she just takes it. She’s taking everything else. Ugh.

        Lmao, I won´t ask most of the time I can´t explain my Klonnie feelings either.
        I really hope they don´t do it but then I look at the writer and we know she gave us Klaroline and I have the fear that CD will make Bonnie be totally afraid and quiet so that they can prop Caroline and her being so strong and outspoken in front of Klaus while forgetting that Bonnie was the one last year who faced him twice.

        They do dumb them down. “You have a weapon to kill the Originals?” And it’s always the Salvatores telling everyone else that there’s a new damn weapon.

        She doesn´t even say “Originals”, she says “Klaus” – it looks like she has forgotten that they are all linked together … or do you think they already know, that Bonnie broke that spell? Please no that can´t happen!!!
        They are the smartest people around … urgh.

        • I hadn’t even considered that: that they’d have Bonnie kowtow to Klaus because they want to sell Caroline as the one who’s outspoken with him. I will hate it with all of my heart.

          Oh you just know Bonnie will run and tell them that she unbound the Originals. JP did say she’d only hold a “grudge for a while” so that probably means 2 episodes? Just like I expected her to keep the fact that Jonas told her how to kill Klaus to herself or between her and Jeremy, but next thing I know she’s blabbing it to the first Salvatore who wants to hear.

  3. I am seriously wondering if the writers pay attention to what they are writing.
    So erm will Elena be helping with the plan? Yep it seeems like it. As far as she knows the originals are still linked so has she suddenly forgotten about Elijah, where is her guilt and worry now that they have another way to kill the originals. What was the point of her feeling bad/telling him the plan to Elijah if two eps later they are back to trying to kill all of them. Lol.

    ”But still … Stefan, Damon and Caroline can´t stake the Originals with the White Oak Tree stakes because they are demons or was it only the dagger that was cursed to kill every demon that used it on another vampire? Where is the explaination show … get it together. Urgh”

    Right? there has been so many stakes/daggers and trees introduced that we cannot keep up anymore lol.

    • So erm will Elena be helping with the plan? Yep it seeems like it. As far as she knows the originals are still linked so has she suddenly forgotten about Elijah, where is her guilt and worry now that they have another way to kill the originals. What was the point of her feeling bad/telling him the plan to Elijah if two eps later they are back to trying to kill all of them.

      Jesus. I’ll be really annoyed if she’s willing to sacrifice Elijah “For Bonnie.” Like, wtf, how shallow can this story get?

  4. I agree. I said that she should kill Bonnie off right after watching the episode. I’m so tired of shaking my head while this show is on and looking around at anything else, but the tv like I have ADD or something. It is exhausting and it feels like a chore. I’m more interested in what’s going on with TSC than this show. I was so tired of looking at Caroline talk for Bonnie. Shouldn’t she be more worried that Alaric killed her father. Oops my bad her BFF Elena hasn’t told her yet.

    • Exactly, but I feel Bonnie will be around until the end of series because, she is the only minority character and there way to many guys on the show, only three main female leads urgh and lets not forget they need someone to be the bestfriend/mammy and to save the mains with a spell.

      There was an interview with Nina talking about the season finale and she said a few people will die and sadly the first thought was ”I hope Bonnie is one of them”.

      • “There was an interview with Nina talking about the season finale and she said a few people will die.”

        I’m guessing Sage & Finn will die together and it’ll be sooo romantic. 😛

        Jamie? (seems inevitable…only a question of when.)

        Bonnie won’t be released from her suffering unless the show brings on another witch. Hmm, or maybe they’ll write some new mythology rules (this show? Never!) and make it so one witch can transfer her powers to a non-witch…permanently. Then Bonnie can make a heroic sacrifice to save the others and will her powers to Jamie. I can see it, if TVD decides he’d be a good love interest for Caroline. 😛

        • Sage and Finn will totes die. I’m not sure about Rebekah, especially if Klaus survives. I’ll be surprised if Meredith dies.

          Can you believe I can’t say for sure that Jaime will live? It has been a while since a person of color died the final death this season. Not since Mindy the Hybrid, I believe. Abby got away. Jaime might not.

          • …Now you’ve inspired me! New prediction: Abby comes back to make the heroic sacrifice instead! Maybe Bonnie’s about to die to save Jamie…then Abby swoops in to save them both, making up for abandoning them? Okay, well, I could be delusional, but if I were writing the show, that’s the only way I can think of to fix the idiocy of her abandoning them in the first place, after transitioning to be with them. She lost her witch-powers and connection to the earth, which the last ep made out to be kind of a big sacrifice for her. I mean, it was either that or die-die, but I still don’t buy her leaving Bonnie & Jamie. Abby will return to save them in the finale! Maybe.

            • I don’t buy her leaving Jaime and especially Bonnie either. I mean I’m glad she left because it’s not like they were doing anything her. Her relationship with Bonnie was not something they cared about. Caroline/Bill sucked, but I’m gonna say Bonnie/Abby didn’t even make up. And just like Lucy, we probably won’t see her again. WHAT THE HELL WAS THE POINT OF KILLING HER????!!! Jesus CHRIST, this is frustrating. And I don’t even get the point of introducing Bonnie’s mother in the first place. Like, none of this has been worth it for me. I reject such a big part of this show’s canon when it comes to Abby. This show doesn’t know how to write Black guest stars who last a couple of episodes. Every member of the Martin family, and now Abby. Oh and Harper. They’ve now had 5 black characters who have been on for a couple of episodes with a so- called storyline and all they’ve done is botch or stall it in the end before getting them off the show. And yeah, some of the White guest stars do suffer from this too, but like I’ve said elsewhere there are plenty of White regulars to make up for that, and that’s an important thing to note. Bonnie does NOT make up for Greta, Jonas, Luka, Harper, and now Abby. This season she’s actually joined their ranks. I can’t say, hey these Black guest stars’ stories get messed up, but at least I have Bonnie. Nope. Because she’s usually having a story WITH them. So what does that say? Ugh.

          • “I’m not sure about Rebekah, especially if Klaus survives.”

            Hehe…basically, Klaus needs someone to talk to. Rebekah has an important role. 😛

            (Rebekah can die after Klaus and Caroline get closer, of course.)

      • There was an interview with Nina talking about the season finale and she said a few people will die

        Warning this part includes some spoilers for later episodes.

        She probably means firstly her parents … because they will show the flashback.
        But I can also see some poor bystanders dieing, because that will always happen. I can´t see it being Bonnie, I just can´t see it, but the longer I think about it the more I wish it so that I can be free of this mess.

        I still have my list of three people out of the regular cast who could die:
        Alaric – now I want it even more, he is so useless and I want to see him gone because everyone is like easy peasy lemon squeezy, but he killed two people. And he is crazy whatever Bonnie did with the spell, at least he should go into a Asylum like Samantha.
        Klaus – the whole sl with the group killing him and failing for the millionth time would be ridic, but the fandom loves him and the actors too and also JP so we know how this could end
        Tyler – if Klaus survives then Tyler is probably dead for sure … but on the other hand they could torture us with a ToD 2.0 next season including Klaus/Caroline/Tyler.

        Rebekah will probably survive and I hate it … I think they are going to kill Esther and Finn, Kol and Elijah are safe in my opinion because Nate tweeted JP and asked if she also wrote some lines for him into the script … and according to Ian S. massive fail with posting the first page he isn´t there … so he must be still alive otherwise he wouldn´t have asked. And Elijah is loved by everyone and I think they want him to be back again next season.

    • Well, now you just guaranteed that JP will keep Bonnie alive till the very end lol.

      I actually got to this point last season. Now I am at the point of physically recoiling from the show even if Bonnie is in an ep.

  5. CRAP! The ratings actually went up last night! As petty as it sounds I was actually hoping they would go down. *rolls eyes*

  6. About the promo … so Caroline gets Bitch slapped but Sage but Stefan catches her punch … okay … >_> 🙄

  7. I think the first pic of Matt Davis is from his new show … I get the vibe for this but the second one could really be Alaric. Especially if it was taken by Cris Grismer. I hope he dies but I probably have hopes for nothing.

    By the way they released some screencaps for the webclip and it seems like we get the scene between Team Fail oh sorry Team Kill the Originals in the woods, hopefully they release it today because I want to know, if the group already knows about the spell and Bonnie trying to unbind the Originals

    http://www.ksitetv.com/vampire-diaries/vampire-diaries-screencaps-from-a-murder-of-one-preview-clip/13049?pid=7508

    • Oh I didn’t consider that it might be from his new show. Pretty much everyone assumed it was Ric. And since JP tweeted that picture of his face, it could be that it gets worse at some point.

      • It´s pretty short. Matt, Caroline and Elena are in the woods

        Caroline says that Elena is the saviour of the damned and cursed (reference to the first line of the synopsis), then Stefan and Damon come in and Stefan says “Where is Bonnie, (we or I) texted her” … you see but that´s not the worst because Caroline also has something to say “Her mother left her … again,. We should probably leave her out of this”. I can´t believe it. No one, not even Matt says anything against them and them being the reason for Abby turning and leaving Bonnie again. With such friends you don´t need enemies.

        It doesn´t seem like they know what is going on between Klaus/Bonnie … the rest of the clip is like what we saw in the promo. A weapon to kill Klaus and them looking dumbfounded about it. Stefan smirks at the end, because he accomplished so much, probably.
        I can´t deal with this.

        I really hope they fail in every regard. As much as I want the Originals dead, these people don´t deserve to succeed.

        • Just watched it.

          So Caroline seems to be comforting Elena over some bullshit because everything’s about her. Also, can Caroline be quiet? Like, that’s exactly what I want TPTB, for another character to serve as the mouthpiece for my fave. Ugh.

          I hope they fail too. I don’t know why Stefan sounds/looks so confident.

          Abby’s death really doesn’t matter, does it? Not for Bonnie, not for anyone. They really did kill her for nothing, didn’t they? I truly don’t know why I’m stumped since death has long stopped meaning something on this show, but damn. Something about their overall lack of investment in Bonnie’s character makes this worse for me. I mean just look at how they have Caroline serving as her translator. There’s no damn emotion in this story (Abby’s death).

        • Lol, we should have really suspected that Elena would be the “saviour of the cursed and the damned”. It figures.

          What’s so sad about this clip is that if the writers hadn’t this Bonnie/Klaus stuff planned for this ep, they would have had Bonnie right there in the forest with the Salvatores as if nothing had happened. This show is trying to break us.

          • We really should have thought about her … all specualtions about this being in regards to Bonnie or Finn lmao. We are so naive sometimes.

            That´s my feeling too and now I´m even more happy about that Bonnie is with Klaus because that is something I really didn´t want to see.

            I´m still laughing at the faces of Caro/Elena/Matt … as if this is some real news. They always found another way to kill Klaus after they failed with the former way.

            And I can´t get over the promoting the actors are doing and them being so confident about killing Klaus, because look at this:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTaaHPkumlU

            As if they would succeed lmao.

            • Have you seen the poster for the episode? Why does the CW do this? I’m going to link it on the main post as soon as I get to my computer. But seeing it just makes me feel like there’s not much going on in the episode. That’s the best they could come up with?

              • No, I didn´t. But I know the promotion of the CW so it can´t be good.
                I always thought that these posters are fanmade, at least the ones for the last episodes I saw, but I wouldn´t put it past the CW to release these bad photoshopped arts.

                I don´t think it will happen much, they will fail that´s crystal clear, because we know Rebekah and Klaus are still alive and who cares about Finn and Sage? If they die nothing will change for the group … I just can´t figure out what the big “game changer” (how much I hate this word) is Candice spoke about in one of her interviews during Paleyfest. I only could come up with Bonnie helping Klaus.

                • I always think they’re fan-made. This one might be the worst yet. I just posted it.

                  Bonnie helping Klaus would be the first game-changer in a long time, but that depends on how it’s played. There’s also the fact that many people have been either expecting this or wanting it since 3.15. So…….

          • I know; I said the same thing. She’d be right there as if she wasn’t bottom of the totem pole for Stefan in particular (he, by action, places Caroline in front of her). And Caroline mentions Abby turning as if another vampire did it and Bonnie just needs time. This is what I mean: NO ONE is even thinking that Bonnie might be mad.

            It is trying to break us. The more I think about how upset Bonnie isn’t, the more I feel like I’m being over over dramatic for expecting her to be. And that’s ridiculous.

  8. So Damon gets kidnapped before the plan goes through. Who wants to bet Stefan and Elena will have a discussion about which one of them should abandon the coalition to go save him? Who do you think will end up doing it? Based on the Delena still, it seems to be Elena. But I don’t know if the writers could resist having a brother moment. Then again, 1912 filled that quota for at least 2 more episodes.

    • I don´t know what they are going to do but I think Ian or JP mentioned during the Paleyfest panel that this torture will bring an awesome bonding moment between DE but also Damon and Stefan. So I don´t know what to think.
      But it looks like that Stefan is occupied with Klaus according to the synopsis and when is this fight happening with Sage/Caroline/Elena which we see in the promo.

        • But it looks like this is happening in the Boarding House and I don´t think Finn would be visiting this or perhaps Sage wants to take revenge on them (because they already killed him) but in the end gets killed by Elena and Caroline. Lmao that would be hilarious a 900 years old vampire killed by them.

          • Which is weird because Rebekah is torturing him at her house.

            Lmao that would be hilarious a 900 years old vampire killed by them.

            I was thinking yesterday about how ridiculous it is that they think they can kill Klaus. I think the inclusion of human Matt, who’s had no experience staking a vampire, is what makes it ridiculous. They’ve completely moved away from the “Witches are the only ones who can kill ANY supernatural creature” thing that Elijah said.

            • I was thinking yesterday about how ridiculous it is that they think they can kill Klaus. I think the inclusion of human Matt, who’s had no experience staking a vampire, is what makes it ridiculous. They’ve completely moved away from the “Witches are the only ones who can kill ANY supernatural creature” thing that Elijah said.

              They really dropped that.
              I also discussed something with Emily about fighting against the Originals, last season Stefan and Damon together only survived with luck their fight against Elijah and “killed” him. But this year you don´t even need supernatural strength to knock out an Original see Elena´s headbutt against Rebekah. And now Matt comes in and kills probably one of them in the end, maybe Kol because he broke his hand.

              Btw I saw a speculation about killing the Originals tonight over there on ff (warning it contains spoilers for episode 19):

              We’re speculating over at v-d.net that killing an Original might lead to the subsequent death of all vampires sired by them.

              So tonight when (probably) they manage to kill Finn, Sage, who is likely to be the only vampire sired by him, dies as well, and the team figure that connection out right away.

              Hence the trip next episode to trace ancient blood lineages….Elena and Damon need to go find out which Original the Salvatores are descended from so they know who not to kill.

              I really love this idea because it will then recall the kind of loyalty vampires should owe the Originals for giving them immortality. We saw a bit of it with Trevor and Elijah in 2×08, and hints of it with the whole no-vampire-can-use-the-dagger thing, but I’d love for this kind of hierarchy to be made official.

              http://www.fanforum.com/62236951-post240.html

              What do you think about that? So could this mean that they want Jeremy (who has probably still his powers to see ghosts) contact Trevor and ask him by whom he was sired?
              It makes all sense but again it would show how selfish our “heroes” really are.

              • And now Matt comes in and kills probably one of them in the end, maybe Kol because he broke his hand.

                Lmao. I mean what’s the plan? Stefan and Damon hold Finn down and Caroline/Elena/Matt stab him over and over?

                That doesn’t make sense to me because then the Salvatores, Caroline, Abby, and anyone else Damon sired (Stefan’s probably never turned someone) would be the only vamps left. Which is not much considering the amount of vamps that are around now. And what about Katherine? And what’s to stop the vamp the Salvatores are defended from from going nuts and killing and turning, since they’d have immunity due to the Sals being snowflakes. Of course these stank writers could do this, but that speculation has a couple of holes to me.

  9. JP answered a Bonnie question again … pigs must be flying or it is because it was a question about “strong” and “paternal” Jamie *we don´t now his last name* and not about “muderous vampires” and them being paired with Bonnie:

    • Where did this idea even come from? Of course, his last name is not Bennett. Even if Abby officially adopted him (which she didn’t), she was using “Wilson” (right?) as her last name while she was raising him.

      Only a few eps left till the season is over so I have a couple of questions. (1) When is this ship going to actually happen? (2) Where are Tyler and Jeremy?

    • Lmao. I talked about the article that sparked that question on the podcast last night. I knew his last name could not be Bennett because that would just be beyond stupid when Abby could just give him the other last name. What I wonder is if JP gave him a last name at all.

      • I knew his last name could not be Bennett because that would just be beyond stupid when Abby could just give him the other last name.

        Me too because I thought that Abby took the name Wilson, but then someone mentioned that her name was Wilson-Bennett or Bennett-Wilson and I was confused again lol.

        I don´t think they gave him one because if so JP could have mentioned it in her tweet.
        The problem is that we wouldn´t have to ask these kind of questions if they made Jamie connected to Abby in that way, That´s all her fault.

        So you also talk about the attributes Robert spoke about why Bonnie is attracted to him? Because I can´t wait for your opinion on those.

        • The problem is that we wouldn´t have to ask these kind of questions if they made Jamie connected to Abby in that way, That´s all her fault.

          Exactly.

          So you also talk about the attributes Robert spoke about why Bonnie is attracted to him? Because I can´t wait for your opinion on those.

          Yep, I did.

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