And the hiatus begins!

Episode 10 trailer

Extended Trailer

Just making sure this post doesn’t get buried for when more news about episode 10 come out.

Synopsis . Thanks Kathryn!

Super Spoilers about the episode. Including how long a certain character will be featured. Thanks to Magali for sharing with me!

Super Spoilers galore! Thanks again to Magali for sharing the link!

Stills Shared by Magali.

One More Trailer

If you want to be spoiled on who’s leaving, watch JP preview the episode

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124 thoughts on “And the hiatus begins!

    • I think I saw some set pictures and also Elena/Nina was there. I didn´t see Kat on one of them, but she is definetly there in the promo.

  1. I really hope Bonnie and Stefan are in the witch house at the same time they haven’t had a scene together all season.

    1)Stefan is at the witch house with the coffins. Probably why this episode was originally called “Witch House” or speculation of that being the name of it. I thought it had something to do with Bonnie’s mom since that’s not it it’s where Stefan is. They made it seem like he was going so far away.
    2) Jeremy is probably compelled to stand in front of the car/truck and Alaric will get hit instead and that’s how we met Mary.
    3) I wonder if Stefan calls Bonnie first to tell her he is at the witch house. Is Klaus in Bonnie’s dreams.
    4) I think Bonnie’s “new thing” will be an orinigal.

    • The house he was in in this episode looked so…clean. Does he move the coffins to the witch house? If so, I kind of have a problem with him just deciding to hole in there without asking Bonnie. And it would also seem useless for him to be threatening Klaus when he’s still in Mystic Falls and in a location that I don’t think is too far from where the sacrifice took place.

      I don’t think he’s compelled. At least I hope he’s not. Why wouldn’t he be drinking vervain? And he seems to be standing there on purpose though I don’t know why.

    • I think that is them also because I think Kat is smaller than Nina and he kind looks down to her. And I see a curl … and Elena´s hair is most of the time straight.
      I would love to see a Stefan/Bonnie scene especially since we didn´t get any in the last 9 episodes.

      1) Perhaps he makes out a meeting with her there? And Damon follows her? But is this gux that Damon beats out of the house still Stefan? He looks like someone out of the Hybrid army. I can´t make it out.
      I think he has the coffins in another place and if he brings them to the witch house I think he will talk about this with Bonnie
      2) Perhaps this truck (it looks like Mason´s car) is Tylers … because I think they are revisiting the Tyler/Jeremy friendship and he wants to provocate him but Tyler stops before it´s too late? But at the same time I think that is the moment when Alaric gets into the hospital because he saves him (I laughed at the moment Elena and Alaric go out of the house, Elena stands still on the porch and only Alaric screams his name and wants to run to the street). I can´t imagine that he is compelled, because it would be really dumb, if he doesn´t drink vervain.
      3) I hope so. But we have to see. Klaus in Bonnie´s dreams … that would make a scary dude out of him. I didn´t think that vampires could invade the dreams of a witch. But the idea is intriguing, Tavi.
      4) Do you mean the thing that starts with “J”? Because I thought so too. We will see.

      • 1) It might be Stefan. It would make sense since Damon is currently pissed at him. But I see some people saying it might be Alaric. I can’t even consider Damon taking yet another step back.

        2)I remember they were supposed to explore the Tyler/Jeremy friendship last season. Have they said anything about it for this season?

        • 1) At first I thought it was Alaric too because of the hair but couldn´t find a reason why Damon would attack him,after now he is the “hero” of the show … and then I thought it could be one minion of Klaus army.

          2) They didn´t say anything but I thought I saw Tyler and Jeremy talking in the woods and that is why I thought that they maybe revisit it. And now after Tyler is on the odds with Caroline (is she even in the episode?) there aren´t many people to talk too for him.

      • I’d love to see a Stefan/Bonnie scene too but, at the same time, I’m also very worried about how it will go down.

        1) I think it’s a stuntman. And I’ve read some posts on another forum that said that it’s the stuntman for PW.
        2) Re: Jeremy and Tyler talking in the woods. I don’t know. It could be misleading and Tyler is actually talking to somebody else. I’m prepared to be disappointed.
        3) Ohh. Yes, Klaus being in Bonnie’s dreams would be very interesting. Or maybe the Original Witch will start to contact Bonnie? Idk, Just an idea. Anyway, I’d love it if the show did a dream sequence!!

  2. So I just watched the extended trailer 3 times:

    1) So. Are the writers not going to address the fact that Stefan is/was crazybeans for the first 9 episodes of the season? Because, I wasn’t aware they could make the storyline more useless. Though, I guess Damon will still be angry at him?
    2) I think Stefan is talking to Bonnie when he says, “You’re not safe.” I also think that Klaus is in Bonnie’s dream, which could be scary, if the writers remember that he’s not supposed to be able to do that. I wonder why.
    3) How much vervain is there? I can buy Jeremy being compelled if the show starts acknowledging that vervain is supposed to be rare. Alaric is probably going to get injured trying to save Jeremy.
    4) “There will be more.” I’m thinking someone has to die or else Klaus will still be more talk than action.
    5) I like how the trailer says “they took his family” when 1) Klaus put his family on ice and 2) Stefan made a wholesale decision that effects everyone. Klaus isn’t attacking everyone because “they” took anything. He’s attacking them because Stefan made a rash choice, in an effort to get back at Klaus.
    6) I’m hoping that Stefan is hiding the coffins somewhere else and not in the witch house. In fact, I think it would be interesting if he woke them up, but the logistics of that are something I can’t figure out. It would be cool if Klaus finally found the coffins and they were empty.
    7) This trailer needed a lot more Bonnie and Caroline. Especially Caroline.

    I am a bit curious about where this could go, despite the poor build-up leading to it. Klaus seems to be making a move towards being a valid villain and we know Bonnie is going to be involved. So I’m curious.

    • So. Are the writers not going to address the fact that Stefan is/was crazybeans for the first 9 episodes of the season? Because, I wasn’t aware they could make the storyline more useless.

      But lexi fixed him.;)

      I think that Bonnie should have kept the necklace. Her doing this would give her a reason to be dreaming of Klaus … I never want to see a vampire compel a witch

      • Lexi was such a psycho and it will never be addressed. Sad times.

        I never want to see a vampire compel a witch

        I don’t want him to compel her either, but if he was able to find a way to get into her dreams, which is different, as far as I remember, then that would be something. Then again, I’m assuming that she’s waking up because Klaus got into her dreams and not because she got some form of warning which would make a lot more sense.

        • I always thought the closest a vamp could get to compelling a witch is messing with her dreams. After Bonnie tried to kill Damon, I spent a lot of time imagining him screwing with her through her dreams, giving her nightmares about Caroline killing people and becoming like him. She would eventually figure out that vamps can get in witches’ dreams and she’d go confront him. That was back when I ship Bamon. I stupidly thought the producers would have Damon get pissed about Bonnie trying to kill him. Instead they had him completely forget about it.

          • Thinking up ideas for this show is an exercise in a wide variety of disappointments. Other people are getting paid to write out ideas that are not as good as the ideas we come up with, for our ships and the characters we love. Let alone the stories we come up with for the characters we hate.

  3. I’m dreading this and hoping it won’t happen, but it will because this is The Vampire Diaries: The fact that Stefan isn’t going to have to make up for anything. The writers took his character to this terribly dark place, provided an additional context for that darkness, and spent the whole time 1) having no one address the fact that he’s a killer 2) not letting Stefan talk about it 3) having Damon/Elena/Klaus/Katherine talk about Stefan’s humanity and fixing him (while ignoring the fact that fixing him is hugely problematic considering the motivations and methods behind his original “fixings”).

    So all of this has happened and we’ll get to hear about Stefan’s “guilt” but no one will address the fact that his guilt will be a lie and who Stefan really is does not match up with the personality he’s going to force himself back into. The resolution of this storyline will ultimately be a waste because, considering the show, it won’t have a lasting impact outside of being the springboard for Delena.

    • The resolution of this storyline will ultimately be a waste

      Yes. Stefan will for sure talk about making up for things (he’s already started by saying he can’t go back), but he won’t actually do anything to make for what he did. Like when you and a couple of other people pointed out the fact that while he’s treated as a selfless hero, he’s never actually done anything selfless.

      • Will he do much more than make things up for Elena and Damon? No one else has gotten to interact with him or confront his actions. So unless he goes on an apology party, he’s probably going to step aside or whatever when Damon and Elena happen. Or accept that he caused it and should suffer. That will be his punishment, living in the same house as Damon and Elena.

        while he’s treated as a selfless hero, he’s never actually done anything selfless.

        (I begin so many sentences about the show this way, but I must) On a better show, the story would break Stefan down and address the fact that this is probably a product of 1) his father’s favoritism and 2) Lexi’s torture (since she didn’t seem to include a “do more than cry to make up for the shit you’ve done” segment in her torture) and 3) his own elevated sense of himself. That he’s spent decades at a time, while being “good” Stefan ignoring who he is and creating a life/image that supports the idea of himself as essentially good and worthy of saving (which…twisted much), but with no context of what to do to be worthy of forgiveness or even living, because Stefan is essentially a bad person. Which is why he keeps falling off the wagon.

        But why explore all of that when he can sadface at Damon and Elena and get his hand held and talk about how he was lost in the wilderness and Klaus was a mean mean man.

        • He’d probably spare Damon a word while doing the most to make it up to Elena.

          That will be his punishment, living in the same house as Damon and Elena.

          Lol.

          This should have been about Stefan falling from grace. Only “falling from grace” would be from Elena’s and some of the fans’ pov. To Stefan, it would be about finally getting the chance to be himself now that Lexi’s dead.

          • This should have been about Stefan falling from grace. Only “falling from grace” would be from Elena’s and some of the fans’ pov. To Stefan, it would be about finally getting the chance to be himself now that Lexi’s dead.

            YES!! That would actually be more interesting and in the hands of a good writer incredibly troubling because for a moment, if well-written, the viewer would be asked to side with the “good guy” deciding to be bad, to give themselves over to the worst of themselves because their “best” traits are not real.

            It’s occurring to me that Salvatores aren’t allowed much nuance on the show (I mean in the way that Mikael gets to be both a horrible father and a man who made a mistake and has spent a 1000 years making up for it or Klaus gets to be a monster, but also a man desperate for a family blah blah). Even when there is plenty of backstory to inform who they are, that backstory doesn’t matter much in the long term. Like the show still hasn’t addressed what Katherine did to both Stefan and Damon, that whether she loved them or not, what she did was wrong and ultimately ruined their lives. I’m not sure I’m phrasing this the right way. What I mean is Damon made a “choice” and Stefan says the same “ypu only care about yourself” (pot meet kettle) line over and over around each other.

            • I agree. When we are shown their backstory, it’s supposed to show their actions as understandable. I think Katherine is the only villain-type character where the show revealed their backstory and still said their present actions were bad (by way of Stefan, Damon, and Elena). I don’t count Klaus because he was a simpleton in his past, an innocent (I almost want to put that in quotation marks). I will say that they’ve yet to show a character’s background that viewers can sympathize with if they want, while saying their present actions are still bad, and continuing said bad actions. Because who even still recognizes Katherine at this point?

  4. When we are shown their backstory, it’s supposed to show their actions as understandable.

    Yes. This is much more succinctly than I managed to put it. Their past is shown as more explanation than exploration. Instead of what they did with Katherine, where the past made her who she is.

    I will say that they’ve yet to show a character’s background that viewers can sympathize with if they want, while saying their present actions are still bad, and continuing said bad actions.

    This would require a moral framework the universe of the show cannot manage. I’m actually beginning to think that this show, since it is so focused on the ToD, is not made for a Big Bad or much else outside of minor villains and romance plots. For it to have a mythology it would have to be focused on Bonnie (and/or Tyler/Salvatores). Bonnie would be best because she’s the most powerful one. Bonnie has (witches, in general, have) a drive and a purpose that cannot be matched on as big a scale as vampires and werewolves. Plus, it would be easier to imagine collectives/organizations of werewolves and vampires, if there were covens (I imagining alliances and just all out wars that have gone on for centuries between the three groups, with occasionally double crosses and just witches owning everything), since companion ship makes more sense amongst witches than among the other two groups, since the other two have to hide and are not self-perpetuating in a way that creates bonds the way covens would. Sometimes I just think of the ways this show could work if 1) the writers had decided to basically take the characters from the book and go from there and 2) made it about Bonnie.

    I’m getting off-track.

    Anyway, the moral frame work of the show doesn’t allow for villain to have a sympathetic past, but continue to do bad things. The bad guys aren’t about anything except hurting one person (Elena) and since there is nothing special about Elena, no true gain outside of “more immortality,” and no one ever deals with the consequences of their actions, outside of the romantic setting, apparently. The show’s inability to be consistent is also a problem.

    • where the past made her who she is.

      Yes! And they have dropped the ball on all of the Originals in that regard, even Elijah. They’ve even dropped it on Stefan because like we’ve all said, there is no point to the 20s flashbacks or the names on the wall or even in him knowing Klaus.

      For it to have a mythology it would have to be focused on Bonnie (and/or Tyler/Salvatores).

      Yes. It would have to be focused on the supernatural and the rules of that instead of on the triangle. With witches, you get covens, ghosts, possession, demons, power growth, hijinks. Like, all of that is built into magic. And of course you can create mythology around vamps and werewolves (TW is doing the latter), but this show isn’t doing that. It pulls things out of thin air that only works for one episode and they don’t provide other examples: siring (who else has done it? How old do you have to be to do it?), Ripper (anyone beside Stefan? Since Lexi made it a ‘thing,’ how does one become a Ripper? What is it about the person? Does Stefan have a Ripper idol?), resisting compulsion, being a Hybrid, etc. The problem with the show’s mythology is that it doesn’t take it’s time. They just throw things at you and expect you to be interested/impressed. Considering the antagonistic relationship between Bonnie and Damon (especially on Bonnie’s end), we should have already been made explicitly clear that a vampire can’t compel a witch. We should have seen him invading her dreams; we should already know how a witch becomes subservient to a vampire. That’s world-building.

      The bad guys aren’t about anything except hurting one person (Elena) and since there is nothing special about Elena,

      All of this. So far all of the bad guys have been bad because of the same reason: they’re after Elena or are threatening her life in Katherine’s case. And like you say, there’s nothing special about her. She doesn’t have any powers to be coveted, or a powerful family heirloom, killing her doesn’t bring notoriety or respect (like killing the Charmed Ones would), none of that.

      • All those questions will never get answers or if they get answers those answers will change. Maybe even twice. I’m not even convinced that a Ripper(s) is a thing outside of an excuse for what Stefan did, since now it can be said to be a pattern in vampires, even though we have no other vampires as examples. Where would Stefan even get an example from, to emulate? How does communication or information work in vampire circles? We have no clue. Same with resisting compulsion…Bill’s resistance was played as flat out resistance whereas Stefan’s is…just odd.

        we should already know how a witch becomes subservient to a vampire. That’s world-building.

        I think this is one of the most important questions that the show has left up in the air, while also acknowledging that it should probably be a question that someone actively asks since, with the exceptions of Greta and Maddox, and the Martins to a lesser extent, witches and warlocks don’t seem to choose to work with vampires out of any need or desire on their part. The fact that we haven’t gotten an answer to that, when it’s been a factor in quite a few major events on the show, is incredibly sad.

        I can’t believe Julie Plec thinks they have plotlines for several more seasons.

        • How does communication or information work in vampire circles?

          Craigslist, according to Slater. I don’t blame you for forgetting though. None of those idiots actually thought of using it to find Klaus or Isobel when they needed her. I guess Damon didn’t share what he learned.

          I can’t believe Julie Plec thinks they have plotlines for several more seasons.

          Lmao. I’d like to know if these plotlines take into account the previous plotlines or if they ignore them altogether.

          • What about before Craigslist? It’s most likely that Damon didn’t share what he learned. Elena had to get Rose to take her to Slater’s and Stefan was never there.

            I’m laughing at the thought of Maddox or Greta showing Klaus how to use Craigslist.

            The idea that this show can get worse is scary.

    • the writers had decided to basically take the characters from the book and go from there

      How were the ToD different in the books in your opinion? Did people call them out on their crap? Was Elena more obviously evil? I know the show is telling me something different but doppelgangers are an evil abomination of nature in my head now

      • Well, the plot is somewhat different in the books. Going off the first four books: Like Stefan isn’t a Ripper. He’s essentially his early s1 self, with more brooding. He wants blood, but he’s not like evil. Though he does have his moments of violence, it’s not the same as on the show.

        Damon is also more like his s1 self. He’s snarky and evil for the most part, but not so impossibly disgusting that it’s hard to see why he’s alive. And people (Bonnie, Meredith, Matt, call him on it all the time. Matt is actually the one, from what I remember, that says he uses his abrasiveness as a defense, or something to that effect).

        Elena is selfish in the books, but people recognize that she’s selfish. She’s also capable of most of the concern the show tries to pretend. She’s essentially her mid s1 mixed in with her late s2 self.

        Does that make sense?

        I’d say their characterization in the books (at least the first four), and I’m going off what I remember from the first few times I read them, years ago, is more consistent. Stefan, doesn’t really consider himself a hero in the same way or at all really. He recognizes, mostly privately, that he wants to drink blood and he tries not too. If I’m remembering correctly, he doesn’t have a past of randomly taking out entire villages. He pretty much gave up human blood early on and on his own.

        And the ToD are a lot less isolated in the books. Like Stefan and Matt are best friends. And Damon and Stefan interact with Bonnie, Caroline, Tyler, Matt, Meredith, and the other characters with the same relative frequency as Elena does. It’s more of an ensemble.

        I’m fuzzy on the concept of Elena as doppelganger in the books. But she’s not evil, only selfish and more than a bit self-centered.

        I will say that as annoying as Stefan and Elena are on the show multiply that by eleventy billion and that is them in the books. Basically, they are always at season 3 levels of gross intensity.

            • Right. But there is a scene in the books, where Elena/Bonnie/Meredith are in Carolines room because she stole Elena´s diary and there you see that Caroline was friends with them and holds the memories of their time together. It probably fell apart because of the rivalism between Elena and Caroline.

  5. If they are all going to be at the witch house Stefan,Elena and Damon, Bonnie better be in this episode a lot. I will be pissed if she just lets Stefan stay there and than Damon and Elena find out so they go there and they don’t show Bonnie again. The witch house has always been about Bonnie and her ancestors. It’s always been connected to Bonnie. The pictures of Damon there and Elena, the pics of what looks like a interview with Paul Wesley on the witch house set has me worried they are going to take over. If they are at the witch house for most of this episode Bonnie better be there too the whole time.

    • It didn’t even occur to me to worry about Bonnie’s involvement in the witch house happenings, but now that you mention it, I feel like an idiot. I seriously hope they don’t have Bonnie in the background for any episodes that occur at the witch house. That would be wrong on so many levels.

    • I will be so pissed if they’re just hanging out there without Bonnie. It is not their property. I hope the producers remember that, and feel there would be something wrong with Damon/Stefan/Elena/anybody just waltzing into the witch house without Bonnie’s permission. I hope they remember Caroline was creeped out by the house. That needs to be everyone’s reaction.

      • And yeah, I will be pissed too if Bonnie isn’t there. They pretty much said that it was her sanctuary in the Ghost World ep. I am still a little bitter that Bonnie never met Gloria or got her hands on Gloria’s Grimoire. I wonder what happened to it.

  6. I thought about the house where Stefan is hiding the coffins at least where we last saw them in the “Homecoming” episode.

    Could it be the house where Isobel wanted to take Elena and make it her safehouse in “Know thy Enemy” (until we saw that she was compelled by Klaus)?
    Katherine knew the location and Stefan too.
    Don´t know if they will introduce many new locations and considering we finally see Bonnie´s bedroom (and hopefully her house) I don´t think that´s a new location.

    • Wouldn’t Klaus know about that property though? Isobel was under his control after all. If it is the same place Isobel and Katherine hung out in, Maddox was there before he died too. I don’t think the show will go this route but the safest place within reach is probably the witch house. Klaus doesn’t know its location and the dead witches might be tempted to come back if Klaus comes near it. Would they even need Bonnie’s help to take him if he is in the property?

  7. Because I think it is a still for episode 10 … I will post this here:

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Torrey-DeVitto-Vampire-Diaries-1040791.aspx

    First Look: Torrey DeVitto on The Vampire Diaries

    She will be playing Mary Fell – The council has a new female member.
    That´s probably the sl she will get involved with besides her being Alarics new love interest.

    Now the Fells not only leading the Historical Society, the Media but also the medical care of Mystic Fall. They seem like they are the most powerful family in MF … if there death rate weren´t that high.

    • Wasn’t she casted for the same episode that that certain other person makes her debut? Hmm.

      So she’s going to be a Fell. That’s interesting. Wonder if she’ll comment on her father recently dying. I hope she doesn’t end up dead.

      Do the writers even remember the Fells are supposed to be in charge of all these things?

      • Wasn’t she casted for the same episode that that certain other person makes her debut? Hmm.

        Right she was. Apparently that Alaric/Mary sl is more important than Bonnie who waited three seasons for a parent.

        I hope she doesn’t end up dead.

        I don´t think that she will die, three Fells in three seasons, no. It would be too much.
        But like you Alta and Emily I ask myself if she will mention her father/grandfather in one sentence.

    • I really hope the show proves me wrong but my first thought was: OK, they made her a Fell because that means she’ll be already in the know about vampires and they can skip the scene of her finding out about the supernatural. Hopefully there’ll be more to it.

      Yes, I also wonder if she’ll ever mention Tobias Fell.

  8. I wonder if Mary Fell will end up using Alaric. That would be great. All of the Founding families are so vanilla. Hello, their ancestors stole property. Twice! Let’s get some ruthlessness in here.

  9. A REASON TO FEEL GUILTY — Stefan (Paul Wesley) has hidden the coffins containing the bodies of Klaus’ (Joseph Morgan) family, and Klaus quickly turns to violence to convince Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and Elena (Nina Dobrev) that no one will be safe until he finds Stefan and gets his family back. Tyler (Michael Trevino) continues to make the most of his new abilities as a hybrid, but he has to face the disturbing consequences of his actions as well. After a terrifying incident, Elena and Alaric (Matt Davis) grow increasingly concerned about Jeremy’s (Steven R. McQueen) attitude and, ultimately, his safety. Alaric meets the beautiful Dr. Fell (guest star Torrey Devitto, “Pretty Little Liars”), who is intrigued with his amazing ability to heal. While trying to strike a deal with Klaus, Elena delivers news that truly shocks him. Kat Graham also stars and internet personality Justine Ezarik guest stars as a bartender.

    http://www.vampire-diaries.net/tv-series/official-synopsis-for-the-new-deal-ep310-ep314-ep315-titles-confirmed

    So the description is here ,,, who is Justine Ezarik?

    • Probably someone who’ll get a super close-up and some cheesy dialogue.

      Tyler is in this description. He better be doing something super important. I remember how Paul Welsey also starred in Homecoming because of words spent on Tyler, Caroline, and Matt, and Matt/Caroline weren’t even shown worrying about Tyler.

      I’m sick of Elena striking deals.

      • I think she will be the one who will get killed in front of Delena after Klaus threatens them. There is a scene at the Grill between them and there will be something like “If you don´t help me get my family back in two days and I will be generous with that ultimatum – remember my last one during prank night *hint* *hint* this *breaks the bartenders neck* will happen to all of the lovely people you call friends. Mark my words.” Dramatic leave.

        Yeh I remember that. We will see.

        In general there is too much Elena in this synopsis … they could have saved at least one “Elena”.
        Now she strikes deals with the murder of her aunt. But I shouldn´t be surprised. She hangs out with the murder of her brother.

        Hopefully we will get more scenes between Jeremy and Elena also Jeremy/Alaric that went nowhere after the season finale.

    • So, I guess the only new piece of information is that Elena shocks Klaus with some news? Hmm. That could be interesting. But it also could be nothing, e.g. she just says something like “Yeah, we tried talking to Stefan but no dice, he didn’t tell us where the coffins are.”

      • And here I thought the time has come and Klaus outsmarts the group. But again Elena strikes a deal with an original.

        But what is the information that will shock him? They don´t have much to offer except for Rebekah. Do you think he believes that Rebekah went with Stefan and betrayed his own brother to help him hide the coffins?
        Because we saw already that Rebekah would choose Stefan over Klaus.
        If Elena would reveal to Klaus that she is in their hostage perhaps then they could strike a new deal? But why would he go after Stefan but not after Elena after he knows that she also has a family member of him?

        • I don’t believe he’ll think Rebekah went with Stefan. After all, he has Stefan’s number. All he’d have to do is call him and ask, and I don’t see Stefan lying and saying Rebekah is with him.

          Why would Klaus even bother to strike a deal? All he’d have to do is kill them, bust in the house, and get Rebekah. Ugh.

  10. So it seems Elena is going to move right on into Caroline’s story.

    How many times is Damon going to “care for Elena whether he likes it or not?” Are they keeping in mind the people who have been watching this show since season 1? That entire paragraph is a false write-up of where Damon’s character is now. He’s been looking out for more than himself (looking out for Elena) since like late season 1, but especially season 2. He’s selfish, but he has been looking out for that girl.

    Jeremy and Tyler….ugh. What have they got to be sniping at each other about (because that’s what the reviewer means by flirting)? And Matt feeling left out. Why? Jeremy and Tyler will have only hung out for 3 scenes.

    • So it seems Elena is going to move right on into Caroline’s story.

      Why won’t they let Elena have a conversation with a dog to learn her lesson of the day? Or, Idk, her BFF (who should actually be dealing with this) instead of some dude she barely talks to. And AGAIN with people demanding loyalty or anything from Tyler when they have zero right to. How can Tyler hang with Klaus since Klaus betrayed you? Is that what you are asking, Elena? Maybe because Tyler barely knows you and owes you NOTHING.

      I also thought they were setting up some sort of power struggle between Caroline and Rebekah/Klaus for Tyler maybe. What with Stefan saying that Caroline reminded him of Lexi and Tyler saying that he felt “sired” to Caroline. I don’t mean Lexi style torture but Tyler seems to have the same kind of inner conflicts as Stefan maybe? He was “sired” to his father then Caroline and now Klaus. Stefan was controlled by his dad then Katherine then Lexi and finally Klaus. I don’t mean to say that these things are exactly the same but broadly speaking they are the same sort of issue? Plus, Caroline dealing with Tyler might actually give the revolting Bill torture some meaning. Like, maybe they will have her say that she used to think “therapy” might work since she knows it has been used with Stefan but after being tortured by her father, she has changed her stance on stuff like that. Or maybe they will have her repeat her father’s mistakes. After all, Bill must have repeated his mistakes by convincing himself that his situation was different from Caroline’s. I mean, he was with a woman for years. It is very possible that he tried stuff like that. But he STILL ended up coming out and getting with a man. Of all people, he should have been the LEAST hopeful that a therapy would work. So maybe like father like daughter? Just wondering if they will actually let Caroline’s experience with her father inform any of her decisions from here on out or are those scenes just going stay torture porn for 13 yr girls and nothing else.

      The bit about Jeremy going “rogue” is the most hilarious bit. Go on with your bad self Germ. Lol. Bringing back Jeremy/Tyler might be ok – not completely terrible. They were jr. Damon/Stefan in season one for me and waaay more tolerable. I like how Jeremy keeps coming back to Tyler between relationships. While he is in a relationship, he is like, Tyler who?

      Bonnie gets one scene or like half a scene. Yay! [sarcasm] I don’t really want to speculate. I know it will be horrifying and terrible. No benefit of the doubt. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 234 times, wtf is wrong with me?

      • How can Tyler hang with Klaus since Klaus betrayed you? Is that what you are asking, Elena?

        Get ready for one hypocritical grilling because this is the same Elena who spent the whole summer and half of fall trying to bring a serial killer back into her friend’s lives, right? Right? Klaus has terrorized them all? So has Damon. And Stefan has terrorized other people.

        I admire that you’re still hanging on to this Bill storyline. Smh.

        I wish we could have seen the beginning of Tyler and Jeremy hanging out (because they’ve never done that), but this show is what it is. It skips beginnings. I guess they don’t have time to throw another Founders shinding to establish this new friendship. You know what’s funny? They could have gotten Tyler and Jeremy talking already. Vicky was back! Jeremy could have told Tyler, and that would have been a natural lead-up to them spending all this time together offscreen. Now Jeremy’s going to feel so strongly about his new friendship with Tyler, a friendship that developed while we weren’t looking, that he’ll invite him to dinner.

        Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 234 times, wtf is wrong with me?

        Lmao.

        • I wonder if the Jyler stuff is yet another storyline that should have happened in season 2. Remember when Mason told Jeremy to look out for Tyler? Well, now, apparently, Jeremy will be sticking up for Tyler. I tend to like their dynamic whether they are fighting or one is trying to reach out to the other or one is trying to scam the other (Jeremy-moonstone) so it is all good. But I also loved Jeremy/Anna and Anna in season 1 so…. We will see.

          • Lol. I just posted the stills, and now I’m kind of looking forward to their scenes. I just hope it lasts. Like the Matt/Jeremy friendship that has now pretty much disappeared seemingly in favor of Jeremy/Tyler?

    • How many times is Damon going to “care for Elena whether he likes it or not?”

      But Elena is going to be taking a couple of big steps without the rest of the crew knowing and all. So, I guess, this means Damon will be left out of some dumbass Elena plan and will help her regardless. This is new territory for them…. Oh wait. It is not rme. /Bitter

  11. Lots and lots of spoilers for this episode.

    Does Jeremy not know about Tyler’s whole hybrid/sired thing? It doesn’t seem like he does from the spoilers. When have they ever been close enough for Jeremy to invite him over for dinner?

    Bonnie’s having dreams about Klaus and the coffins.Is it because Stefan is at the witch house with them?

    • I’m thinking Jeremy doesn’t care. He probably believes that Tyler can resist the sire thing.

      I hope Stefan’s not at the witch house. Aside from me hating the idea, it would be ridiculous if Bonnie made the humongous discovery that the coffins that have been haunting her dreams….are some place she’s already been.

  12. Wow, so many spoilers. And so detailed. You could probably piece together the entire episode just based on these spoilers.

    Jeremy and Tyler are interacting for the first time since “Plan B”, right? That was 2×06. I guess both have run out of other people to interact with. Tbh, I’ve always liked their scenes, so I’m kind of looking forward to their interaction.

    I can’t take these dark!Elena spoilers seriously. Idk. I doubt this will make its way on screen. Or, at the very least, not the way JP makes it sound it will.

    • I’m looking forward to Tyler/Jeremy too. I like any combination of the teens hanging out together that does not include the Salvatore brothers eg Matt/Tyler, Matt/Jeremy, Bonnie/Caroline, Elena/Bonnie/Caroline.

      And the brief Bonnie scene/scenes we will get.

    • I just read this. I can’t with Klaus anymore. He is beyond stupid. They should have just made Greta the big bad. So he wants to build a house in MF and live alongside the people who are trying to kill him? What an idiot.

      I wouldn’t mind if Jeremy left. They’ve taken back the development they gave him, so I’d rather he go develop offscreen and either come back next season/a later season, or he comes back in my head. Bottom line, I’m okay with him leaving.

    • And there goes my hope that Klaus would become the villain he was hyped up to be.

      He just wants a house for him and his family in Mystic Falls.Why? just kill him please I can’t take anymore of this.

        • Klaus, Damon and Stefan are like extreme mama’s boys. Rebekah is like an extreme daddy’s little girl. The writers are their parents. They know they have created little monsters but they can’t fully accept that. Therefore, they insist on making you sit through dozens of photo albums to convince you of their offspring’s cuteness. They simply won’t stop talking your ear off about how their children aren’t really that bad. Even monsters make friends, moms and dads. You don’t have to keep making them seem so pathetic.

          And, for God’s sake, grow up Klaus. This is *not* attractive.

          • And, for God’s sake, grow up Klaus. This is *not* attractive.

            For real! Klaus could stand to be more distant, emotionally as well as physically. His desires and ambitions aren’t just human, they’re lame and uninteresting. They’re spending more time making him relatable and a woobie than they are in making him scary/psychotic and an actual threat.

        • I’d trade him for Katherine at this point.

          I wish the show had never introduced Klaus/the Originals (although I like Elijah a lot but even he doesn’t make up for the general fail of the Originals) and had kept Katherine as the main antagonist of S2.

          The season 2 premiere did such a good job of setting up a bunch of different dynamics with her: Elena/Katherine (they didn’t interact in the episode but Katherine was impersonating Elena at the Lockwood’s and nobody, except for Bonnie, noticed anything – this could have been the beginning of a great SL for Elena), Katherine/Damon, Katherine/Stefan, Katherine/Bonnie and Katherine/Caroline. All of these dynamics seemed so promising. And then most of them were dropped. So much wasted potential.

          What interesting dynamics are there when it comes to Klaus? (Sorry, this sounds like terrible English.) With some goodwill you could say Klaus/Stefan – but the writing is actively working against making it interesting. I know that some people are interested in Klaus/Rebekah. And that’s it, I guess?

            • Nope he isn’t.
              I was thinking about that. I love Elijah he is probably my favorite guest star character(I don’t count Grams as a guest star). But I would give him up if it meant not having to sit through this original’s story. I really can’t stand his siblings Klaus or Rebeka, I want Klaus to go away I want Rebeka to stay away. There’s still two more who will be introduced why? Elijah isn’t worth his family.

    • So, Klaus now wants to live in MF?! Riiight.

      This felt right for the tomb vampires because we got a few flashbacks of Katherine in 1864 MF. She was one of those vampires. We also got flashbacks of Pearl and Anna. We saw the tomb vampires being rounded up. Most of Klaus’ flashbacks weren’t in MF. Klaus doesn’t talk about MF at alI. I don’t get the sense that MF is Klaus’ home. I have the sense that Klaus has had many homes

      However, I still prefer this to the whole New World Order thing. I kinda like that they made the hybrids a joke in that department. I mean, everyone is ok with vampires and the show preaches tolerance towards them (LOL) but a new “race” of bi-species/bi-racial people is the EVIL? How weird is that?

      One random thing I am curious about w/r/t hybrids – Do they have that dead feeling inside that vampires do? On the one hand, they had to die to become hybrids but, on the other hand, they are still werewolves. Wouldn’t their werewolf side connect them to life?

      If the character leaving is a side character, I am thinking it is Katherine. Elena is supposed to get “darker” so Katherine will be kinda redundant.

      • I’ve wondered if a Hybrid can be channeled. And I think the answer is no? With them being undead, they aren’t cyclical anymore. They don’t have a set death, and the moon no longer controls them. Of course the producers could have a witch one day channel a vamp because they want the vampires to be special, always *____*.

        You could be right. What’s the point of having Katherine around if the comparisons are just going to increase? They’ve run out of things to do with Katherine in the present, and they really cannot have her seemingly escape only to come back. Twice. But why would Katherine make us cry?

        • Another random thought – Why does Bonnie need to pour water *on* someone to set them on fire? Why not set the water *inside* the body on fire?

          • Because TVD is not hardcore or as Badass as its makers thinks it is? That’s how Bonnie killed Stefan in my little non-fic thingy. She set him on fire using the water in his body.

            Logically, she very much should be able to use that water, but TVD will never do it. They’ll show women torn to pieces and one of their heads falling off, but they won’t think to show that.

      • Klaus doesn’t talk about MF at alI. I don’t get the sense that MF is Klaus’ home.

        Iirc, he has called MF “a sad little town” (or something like that) a bunch of times. And now he wants to live there?

        The problem is that this thing about MF being Klaus’/the Originals’ home is such a glaring retcon. It doesn’t mesh with anything we’ve seen in S2, or even in S3 prior to “Ordinary People”. As of “The Reckoning”, Klaus just wanted to grab Elena, Stefan and Tyler and get out of MF asap. There was no nostalgia whatsoever. And in S2 the writers had Elijah actually doing research about MF’s history – yet he didn’t come to realize that this was the place where he and his family lived when they were human. That’s hard to believe.

        However, I still prefer this to the whole New World Order thing.

        The New World Order thing was plain craziness on the writers’ side. I mean, TVD is clearly not the type of show for a SL about world dominance.

        • Iirc, he has called MF “a sad little town” (or something like that) a bunch of times. And now he wants to live there?

          I think I remember that. Smh.

          And in S2 the writers had Elijah actually doing research about MF’s history – yet he didn’t come to realize that this was the place where he and his family lived when they were human. That’s hard to believe.

          Ugh.

  13. I agree with all of you who said that there are many and detailed spoilers.
    Emily is right we could construct the whole episode with the help of them … that´s not very smart of the writers in my opinion.

    I can´t read all of the spoilers because I don´t have a lj-account, but I checked the FF- thread and I think I found the other ones.

    I think that the original witch is causing Bonnie´s dreams or at least has some influence. And I also think that she is the other witch who also wants to kill Klaus … don´t know where you know who plays into this but we will see.
    But I really like that they revisit the dreams aspect of Bonnie´s powers and I´m excited how this sl will play out. Like really excited.

    In regards to that other Bonnie spoiler:
    “1. Bonnie! The first person we see in the episode is Kat Graham as Bonnie. She was absent for a good portion of the first half of the season so it’s nice to see her again. It’s also nice to see her back in her spot as one of Elena’s closest friends and confidantes. Unfortunately, after the first few minutes she’s not in the episode all that much, but it’s a good start.”

    I´m excited that she is the first person we will see in the new year and the other part of her being not so much in the episode after that is probably better for me … I can watch the first minutes with Bonnie and then go to bed at a “decent time” and don´t have any bad conscience the other day for spending to much time on this show.

    Again it seems like this episode Elena will probably be the only main female character who has more screentime than two minutes with Caroline missing this episode. I really miss season 1.

    To the bolded part: When was she not in season 3? I don´t think that is worded right. But by the amount of spoilers it seems the quality of the articles has to suffer.

    And I found something in regards to that character, who will leave:
    “Teaser #1: Someone leaves Mystic Falls.

    Forever? I doubt it, but the set up makes perfect sense and doesn’t really leave a door open for this individual to return. Yes, it’s a key character and, yes, tears are shed during his/her goodbye.”

    Read more: http://www.tvfanatic.com/2012/01/the-vampire-diaries-2012-premiere-teaser-who-leaves-mystic-falls/#ixzz1iJwNEFBr

    It could be Jeremy … because (let´s be honest) who would shed a tear (except for his fans and with Caroline not being in the episode) if Tyler leaves?
    And it looks pretty final.

    Oh and I also would watch the episode for the Tyler/Jeremy interactions … I really liked them in season one … and some scenes in season two. So this could be pretty good.

    • And I also think that she is the other witch who also wants to kill Klaus

      If it’s the Original witch, then Bonnie needs to summon her butt so that she can explain. Why is she so gung-ho to kill her own son? Especially since we saw her trying to get Mikael to leave him alone. Did she disassociate herself from him that much? I know he killed her, but first she completely turned her back on him. Right now they’re writing her as if she has no relation to Klaus (which is the road they should have taken, imo).

      To the bolded part: When was she not in season 3? I don´t think that is worded right. But by the amount of spoilers it seems the quality of the articles has to suffer.

      I think they’re talking about the first 3 episodes where she was absent. The part that made me side-eye is when it says it’s good to see her back as one of Elena’s closest friends. Please. When was she not? Are they forgetting all Bonnie did for her last season? Elena’s still human because of Bonnie! These people are way too concerned about Bonnie being a friend to Elena and not at all concerned about Elena being a friend to her. It’s as if Elena simply talking to Bonnie is good enough for them. Whatever.

      You’re right, no one would cry if Tyler left. Then again I’ve said before that these spoiler people and I don’t have the same priorities. Also, I so do not believe that the door wouldn’t be open for this character to come back. Vicky and Anna came back for a lengthy period of time, and they’re dead.

      • If it’s the Original witch, then Bonnie needs to summon her butt so that she can explain. Why is she so gung-ho to kill her own son? Especially since we saw her trying to get Mikael to leave him alone. Did she disassociate herself from him that much? I know he killed her, but first she completely turned her back on him. Right now they’re writing her as if she has no relation to Klaus (which is the road they should have taken, imo).

        I´m with you on that but if Bonnie summons her it probably won´t happen this episode, afte what I read about her sl in the New Deal.
        All the family rl between the originals aren´t very clear and especially after the retcon between Klaus and Ordinary People the did a bad job with Klaus and his mother.
        But we will see in two days.

        The part that made me side-eye is when it says it’s good to see her back as one of Elena’s closest friends. Please. When was she not? Are they forgetting all Bonnie did for her last season? Elena’s still human because of Bonnie! These people are way too concerned about Bonnie being a friend to Elena and not at all concerned about Elena being a friend to her. It’s as if Elena simply talking to Bonnie is good enough for them. Whatever.

        That´s something that really bothered me too. And it seems like other spoilers are in the same tune.
        Look at this:
        http://tvafterdarkonline.com/2011/12/six-teasers-of-the-vampire-diaries-episode-3-10-the-new-deal/

        Hello Bonnie: We’ve missed you. Bonnie isn’t fighting big bad wolves this time, she’s doing girlfriend duty and I really missed those kind of interactions in the show. I think the last time I really saw that was in a pajama sleep over with her, Elena, and Caroline. Nevertheless, even though she’s not in the episode much, it was sooo nice to see Bonnie again.

        And why everyone has to mention that she isn´t in the episode very much and add this fake “we missed her so much” … it looks like she isn´t even a main character on the show according to the wording.

        Yeh, and I think it´s gonna be Jeremy who leaves … perhaps he visits a vampire hunter camp in Transilvania. For real.

        You´re right about the different priorities but I really don´t think it will be Tyler, but who knows perhaps the writers will surprise us.
        Also agree with you on the part of coming back of the character. The person who leaves probably will return until episode 16 or maybe earlier.

        • And why everyone has to mention that she isn´t in the episode very much and add this fake “we missed her so much” …

          What is up with that? Are they just being unoriginal? They don’t seem to talk about missing the friends scenes when we’re getting heaps of Delena or Stelena, rme.

          perhaps he visits a vampire hunter camp in Transilvania. For real.

          Lol.

  14. I’m starting to think it isn’t someone from the main cast. The wording is wrong when Jenna died they said a main character would die. But now they’re saying it’s a loved character or a key character. Who are the biggest/most loved side characters? ie Mrs.Lockwood,sheriff Forbes, Katherine.

    • I think you’re right. Mrs. Lockwood might be safe because of that other spoiler. Ugh, I’ll just wait and see. Three more days. Wait a second. Is Klaus mentioned in the summaries after this episode? He might go away for a bit which would be a nice reprieve.

  15. There is a new canadian promo http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/01/vampire-diaries-episode-310-new-deal.html

    Sorry, not the best quality.

    And it seems like there is much teasing going on twitter, This Price Petersen (who also reviews the episodes) tweeted about the episode and Carina also helped to get certain fans excited … don´t know what to think, but with the more spoilers I get the more I don´t want to watch it because I think it is too much information (but it is all my fault for reading them) … nevertheless I missed to complain (and sometimes be happy) about the show, so I will probably watch it nevertheless. Yes I´m weak.

    Btw Petersen also said that something would happen that is important for book fans and for this he regretted to never read the books. He didn´t write that it is important but only book fans would get it.
    Probably he is talking about Mary Fell and she will be the show version of Meredith but I thought that was very clear from the start and her casting call. But who knows.
    Perhaps it will be a small detail, like Mrs. Flowers last year.
    The only one who read the books beside me is Olu, right?

    • I’ve read the books, too. Well, the first 4. Btw, it’s funny because I just read this tweet about a book reference and was so confused about what it could be. What a coincidence. I’m pretty sure that you’re right and that it’s that Mary Fell is actually Meredith.

      He also tweeted that there would be two big references to S1. I have to say I’m intrigued.

        • I´m there with you Emily, I only read the first four books, too.
          There isn´t much that I could imagine that would be included from the books.
          They already worked with that Tyler/Klaus connection from the books, but there Tyler worked voluntary with Klaus and they killed Vicki together.
          That option is out after Stefan killed her already in season 1.

          And I don´t think that Price speaks about something that happened in the Return Trilogy.
          But the only thing that they took from the books when it comes to Mary/Meredith is that she is Alarics love interest. In the books she was the vital part of the girls friendship.
          It will be difficult to include that part of her character on the show.

          He also tweeted that there would be two big references to S1. I have to say I’m intrigued.

          I really think that these two parts are about Damon/Elena and the porch scene that Damon had with Katherin in the season 1 final.
          And I think the second one will be about Damon/Jeremy and the revisit of their talk in the season 1 final.
          That´s me speculating … so you know, I mostly make false assumptions.

          Yeah, I’m weak, too.
          *high five*

            • They all have to be heroic.
              That´s a given.

              In the books it wasn´t Vicki who almost got raped by Tyler, it was Elena (in a graveyard).
              I´m not to sure about the details (perhaps Olu and Emily can help) how Tylers werewolf side was activated but I think it was a ritual or something like that and in order Tyler had to kill somebody and he did it willingly. Klaus knew about the werewolves but he wasn´t a hybrid in the books.

              • Oh they (the show) would never make something like that happen to Elena. She’s usually coded as the madonna against the likes of Caroline (Matt), Andie (Damon), and Katherine (Damon and Stefan). Even though there was the situation in her room with Damon right before he killed Jeremy, they’d never explicitly draw the parallel.

    • Thanks for the trailer. It seems that Jeremy does get hit by the car. Is he doing it to give Klaus a false sense of security or something? Goodness, if he’s really doing it so that he can die all to be with Anna, then I hope he succeeds.

      I’m not looking forward to that Damon/Stefan scene. At all. And it looks like they’re at the witch house. Ugh. Bonnie better be in the episode 11 trailer.

      • For a moment I thought Damon saves Jeremy, but I think they mashed up the scenes after the crash and that´s why it looks like one scene.
        But it really looks like he really gets hit by a car.
        If I speculate on Jeremy´s plan I think that he wants to trick Klaus and pretends his death and that´s why he leaves town. But what would achieve this? He would be save (if he gets away), but his only living family member and his friends would still be in danger.

        I’m not looking forward to that Damon/Stefan scene. At all. And it looks like they’re at the witch house. Ugh. Bonnie better be in the episode 11 trailer.

        Me too.
        This was one of our greatest fears that Bonnie wouldn´t be included much in that episode especially after seeing the ToD in the witches house.
        The writers really love us.
        That´s probably the thing I will hate about that episode the most.
        They aren´t allowed there unless Bonnie is with them.

        • If I speculate on Jeremy´s plan I think that he wants to trick Klaus and pretends his death and that´s why he leaves town. But what would achieve this? He would be save (if he gets away), but his only living family member and his friends would still be in danger.

          Also, Bonnie did this just last season and you know she could actually get something accomplished by faking her death.

          Completely agree. They really should not even feel comfortable going into that house without Bonnie. But they’re really not self-aware.

  16. The latest trailer looks very good on the Stefan front. All I have to do is pretend like the apologism isn’t coming and act like he isn’t being coded as a hero during all of this.

    And Elena. Elena, Elena, Elena. Force-fed blood for the 3rd time. Someone is wondering if that sequence is a dream. If it was real, it’d be good for Stefan. But it’s better for Elena’s character if it’s a dream, because we know how much they like to explore the trauma she goes through *____*.

    • Yes. yes. yes. I was not expecting to love it so much but I did and I’ll just have to ignore any hero-coding or apologism they attempt to do, but it’s as if they figured out that Stefan can’t just be “back to normal” and I’m slightly less pessimistic about the whole thing. It will at the very least provide me with more fodder for my head canon.

      If it was real, it’d be good for Stefan. But it’s better for Elena’s character if it’s a dream, because we know how much they like to explore the trauma she goes through

      I’m hoping it’s a dream of Elena’s because then, maybe, they would be forced to explore what that means for her. Unless they took it the obvious route and said the dream means exactly what it is saying. If it’s actually happening, then there are a few “be a better villian” and/or just stefan motivations that could be used, so I’m interested in that. But I’d prefer Elena take priority in whatever developments occur there.

      • I’m hoping it’s a dream of Elena’s because then, maybe, they would be forced to explore what that means for her.

        I would hope so. And not just a one-liner while Damon comforts her. Heck, this conversation shouldn’t even take place with Damon, it should happen with Bonnie who would hopefully not play up Stefan.

        • I would appreciate them not having her discuss this with Damon, considering he has forced his blood on her and I’m not sure she should feel comfortable discussing it with him. Nor should he, imo, feel comfortable discussing it with her. Even if it is only a dream. Which is what I hope, since the colors were so weird.

          • I would appreciate them not having her discuss this with Damon, considering he has forced his blood on her and I’m not sure she should feel comfortable discussing it with him.

            Good point.

  17. OMG the new trailer is good. I have to say I´m really excited.
    On the Stefan/Elena/Damon front I agree with all of you but I think the only ones who will talk to her after this will probably be Jeremy and Damon.

    But I would be surprised and I would love it so much if Bonnie waits for Elena in her room after she comes back from her horror trip reality / dream and they make a sleep over … perhaps that´s what that author of this one article meant.
    I know I always complain about Bonnie being there for Elena but mostly not the other way around, but I would really give the writers credit if the last shot would be Bonnie and Elena for this episode.

    It looked like they put some scenes of episode 11 in the trailer … because there was clearly a shot of Caroline and I thought she isn´t in the episode. Just wanted to mention it.

    Did you see Bonnie in the trailer? Because I only catched one shot of her (and this thanks to an user on FF): http://i41.tinypic.com/2a93ck5.jpg

    So it seems like they are arguing maybe because Stefan already hid the coffins in the house without permission of Bonnie and she calls him out on his bs and who is screaming in the witches house when we see a shot of Damon.

    • I think the only ones who will talk to her after this will probably be Jeremy and Damon.

      Jeremy would be good. It would be nice if Elena wasn’t just working on getting him to talk to her (because you know she will), but that she’d talk to him about her problems too. They could help each other get some perspective.

      Yeah, I noticed Caroline too.

      I only saw Stefan. I didn’t notice Bonnie in the background. I would love an argument! As long as it’s not about how Stefan “betrayed” them. Something I else I’d love is if Bonnie finds the location, and she’s looking around at the coffins, and all of a sudden there’s a noise; she’s jumpy, so she acts on instinct and sends Stefan flying into a wall.

      Damn it, they really are at the witch house. What other location has so many candles? Stefan is acting too familiar with Bonnie’s stuff. Ugh.

    • Watched it and totally missed who is leaving. The only thing I got from that is that I like Caroline Dries’ hair. This is probably because I have lost my ability to think about this show completely. The only thing I got from the other stills is that Klaus is getting his shirts from Elena’s closet + Damon and Jeremy are sharing clothes. So…who is leaving?

      • The only thing I got from that is that I like Caroline Dries’ hair.

        That´s what I thought, too. LOL.
        I think presenting it to the fandom was her only purpose in the preview because she didn´t say anything at all.

  18. JP should never ever get mad if something is spoiled on this show. She talks entirely to much. They really have given away to much on this episode. I hope they don’t keep doing this.

  19. And the amount of spoilers for this episode increases again:
    http://smallscreenscoop.com/the-vampire-diaries-the-new-deal-spoilers-two-new-faces/321102/

    That quote peaked my interest:
    “Elena inadvertently puts a beloved female character in jeopardy. Then again, maybe it was an unconscious reveal on her part. Either way, the consequences will have you upset and sad.”

    I discussed it with somebody and she thinks that it could be either Rebekah or Bonnie – with Rebekah it could be because she accidently reveals that she knows about the murderer of her mother and with Bonnie it could be about her hiding the coffins.
    It´s probably Rebekah but is she such a beloved character? But the only thing about her putting in jeopardy is her not being “undaggered” anytime soon and we wouldn´t see the direct effect because she is unconsious and wouldn´t realize a thing.

    • These people think every female character is beloved. Considering the number of girls in this episode, it should be Bonnie, but watch it be Rebekah or Katherine. I don’t think these articles would see greater Fandom would be upset and sad over anything to do with Bonnie. I am so pessimistic.

      I bet Damon will be the one to say Klausageddon. *____*.

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