Episode 51: Ghost World

Episode 51

In this episode, Jeremy’s character is destroyed and Fandom trots out a ready-made excuse for his shadiness (are excuses ever made for the much-reviled Matt?), Caroline was amazing throughout, Sheila has the best ghost return and Bonnie has the best, most beautiful, and most powerful closure, and where do I even start with the revelation that the Stefan we’ve gotten to know is a result of Lexi’s torture project?

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8 thoughts on “Episode 51: Ghost World

  1. There was a curfew for the Civil War?!? What? These writers need to crack a history book. Preferably not the same one they’ve been opening for the last two years.

    Maybe Jeremy and Alaric put up some streamers.

    The Lockwoods didn’t steal shit from vampires. They stole it from Bonnie’s ancestors.

    It never occurred to me that Elijah had to go about learning the true history of Mystic Falls until just now.

    Jeremy, Jeremy/Anna & Jeremy/Bonnie:

    It was such bullshit.

    Not only would he have made out with Anna, he wouldn’t have told Bonnie the truth about whatever he thought the fallout would be from him starting a relationship with Anna.

    You’re not heartless. Mourning is not something fandom gets to decide the term limits.

    None of these guys are cheaters. Tyler didn’t really even cheat on Vicki.

    Jeremy can cheat because…I don’t even know. I was going to say it’s because he’s got a white dick, but Matt has one of those too. So I’ve got no clue.

    Matt! I make fun of him sometimes, but mostly I love him and feel that fandom acts as if his behavior is on par with Damon’s. There are people who can’t stand the way he treated Caroline, but manage to ship her with both Damon and Tyler. Ugh, let me not get started with my Matt feelings.

    They haven’t built up any relationships on the show in a way where “we can’t control ourselves” is a way to look at them.

    Who gets to say goodbye? In what world do people always get to say good bye? Fandom is gross.

    If they got bored with Bonnie and Jeremy, you’re right, they are incompetent.

    I’m with you, I definitely think Steven had no idea how to play this material because he didn’t like it at all.

    Your idea about where they could take Jeremy’s storyline is brilliant. I wish the show could manage it, but he’d probably go to therapy once or twice but then have him be okay.

    Weren’t the ghosts supposed to give Jeremy a warning?

    Jeremy realizing he was in love with Bonnie during therapy would be pretty messed up, for him and for her (at some future date).

    Why would he try to see his parents or Jenna or John? Who are they in comparison to Anna?

    Bonnie means nothing to Anna, but Anna & her relationship with Jeremy is supposed to mean something to Bonnie, according to fandom.

    They wasted Anna in this storyline. It’s gross.

    Stefan & Lexi:

    “I forgot how much I used to care.” LOL, course he did.

    Lexi bullying Stefan is actually really creepy if you consider that this is how she has probably always approached him when he was being himself.

    Slater couldn’t even keep himself alive. Even Stefan was only able to resist for so long. Klaus didn’t compel her to leave. He was on the other side of the room, I believe. I think he just told her to leave. I could be wrong though.

    I love Stefan, but I hate the show doing things that make me feel bad for him and not acknowledging that. Feeling bad for Stefan in that moment was apparently wrong. Because Lexi and Elena are fixing him and we should welcome that. Gross.

    “Let him be!” I know what you mean. They need to just let him be a sociopath and then kill him if they have a problem with that. But they need to let him be himself. I think Stefan has to know he’s a sociopath or his situation is worse. I don’t think we’re meant to believe that Lexi is a psycho. Most of fandom hasn’t reacted that way.

    “When Stefan thinks about being who he is he associates that with starving to death” Holy shit that is twisted. What Lexi did to him is horrible. He isn’t even able to get out from under her thumb! He has to be her friend afterwards.

    That person on Tumblr bringing up some bullshit book!canon.

    Maybe the torture takes longer and longer each time?

    Stefan hates Lexi so much and considering what they have done to that friendship I am fucking glad he hates her because he should.

    In my head, Lexi finds the necklace and asks him about him and he won’t tell her and she keeps torturing him until he starts spinning a story about how he feels like he was meant to find it.

    You’ve convinced me that Lexi did stick around, hanging between the worlds, just so she could torture Stefan again. That is the most interesting angle on that storyline.

    Damon:

    Are we ever going to see those caves again?

    What I want to know is if someone ripped out Klaus’s heart, because it can clearly be accessed, would he grow a new heart? They want special weapons, but they still haven’t really explained why Klaus can’t die.

    Unless Mason blames himself for Katherine getting access to Tyler. Maybe if Klaus dies, Tyler won’t be a hybrid anymore?

    We now know how unnecessary those damn caves were.

    Bonnie & Caroline:

    Bonnie/Caroline = the true otp of the show!

    Caroline taking on those vampires for Carol was pretty important to me as a character moment.

    SRQ didn’t play Jeremy as missing anyone.

    Kat was magnificent in that scene. It was so refreshing and beautiful and just welcome. Like I knew that Bonnie needed Grams to come back, but the show needed that as well.

    The reasons that Bonnie/Grams and to a lesser extent Matt/Vicki were the best reunions and closures were because they were so simple and understated and just needed for all the characters involved.

    Jasmine Guy was stunning.

    The witch wedged some stuff open for no reason. They should have just said that the ghosts came back because they got out when Vicki got out.

    “Who do you think makes all the rules?” Beautiful idea. Bigger than this show can actually handle.

    I assumed that Anna stole the necklace early.

    People can’t even be on Elena’s side when she kissed Damon. And that kiss was chaste.

    The writers aren’t concerned with logic when it comes to Elena and Caroline.

    When it looked like Jeremy was going to take her hand I was ready to kick the TV and it was so welcome when they revealed that it was Grams.

    “You are stronger than all of this. I am so proud of you.” Absolutely the best line of the episode and the season so far really.

    I missed the voice saying “Kill Klaus.”

    You’re favorites are my favorites. Your least favorites and all that.

    • These writers need to crack a history book. Preferably not the same one they’ve been opening for the last two years.

      It’s not in our history books, girl. What I don’t understand is why the citizens of MF buy this. What kind of history are they taught? Even the ones who move to MF from like Louisiana or…New York?

      Why would he try to see his parents or Jenna or John? Who are they in comparison to Anna?

      *Sigh*

      I agree that Tyler didn’t cheat on Vicky.

      In my head, Lexi finds the necklace and asks him about him and he won’t tell her and she keeps torturing him until he starts spinning a story about how he feels like he was meant to find it.

      Soooo twisted!

      Maybe if Klaus dies, Tyler won’t be a hybrid anymore?

      That wouldn’t make any sense. Tyler died. He’d undie? And you know what? If/when Tyler stops being a Hybrid, we’ll all be going, “Why did he even need to become a Hybrid in the first place?” That’s how much Tyler will have learned or been affected by this.

      The reasons that Bonnie/Grams and to a lesser extent Matt/Vicki were the best reunions and closures were because they were so simple and understated and just needed for all the characters involved.

      I agree. They didn’t build them as some “Epic” thing.

      They should have just said that the ghosts came back because they got out when Vicki got out.

      They should have. They should have said it was just an unintended consequence.

    • Maybe the torture takes longer and longer each time?

      because It takes longer for Lexi to get into it. She has to make it last longer so she can get off. How is Stefan not completely appalled by all women?

      What I want to know is if someone ripped out Klaus’s heart, because it can clearly be accessed, would he grow a new heart? They want special weapons, but they still haven’t really explained why Klaus can’t die.

      Why don’t they pull a Buffy and just launch a rocket at him?

      Unless Mason blames himself for Katherine getting access to Tyler. Maybe if Klaus dies, Tyler won’t be a hybrid anymore?

      What? But Tyler is dead (undead) It’s not like Klaus cast a spell on him or compelled him to be a hybrid. He turned him. This show is really horrible.

      The witch wedged some stuff open for no reason. They should have just said that the ghosts came back because they got out when Vicki got out.

      I would love to think that his is a distraction for something the Original witch cooked up to keep all the heads spinning while she erected a real plan. Because this is just whack-a-doodle.

  2. He Alta

    This show … Hiatus. I really don’t want to come back.

    I’m hoping that this is going all out because it was the 150 year anniversary? But I don’t know.

    Tobias Fell … you expect too much from this show.

    Steven wanted to bone!

    How can humans steal from vampires? Without help? Smh.

    UGH original … I can’t care about this story. It does not interest me.

    Fredrick could have been like Spike on Buffy.

    Anna/Bonnie/Jeremy, I can’t. This show is the dumbest. All of this was pulled out of his ass. This should have been Vicki for me to even take it seriously. So was Jeremy compelled? Because he never said he loved Anna until this. He’s known Vicki and Bonnie for most of his life but Anna ranks? Pulled out of ass.

    The first person who gets cheated on is Bonnie. *side eye*

    Jeremy held on to Vicky even after she died.

    I don’t know why it’s like Bonnie has to pay for Anna being dead. John didn’t get a fraction of the hate for Anna/Pearl/Harper, (who’s that? Ha!) Than Bonnie got for lying about the device?

    Bonnie was starving for a mentor (and so is Tyler) that’s why she cried when Lucy left her.

    Jeremy is not getting therapy. Smh In the first season Jeremy was on drugs because he wasn’t getting therapy. He was self medicating and then he latched on to Vicki. You might need to write that story for your own well being.

    You ship Jeremy/Bonnie so hard. I know Jeremy can hang better than Tyler. =X

    Damon lost Katherine and then broke Jeremy’s neck when Elena rejected him.

    That would suck if Jeremy killed himself to be with Anna. I’d like to see that story though. 😉

    It was like invasion of the body snatchers this show.

    I’m gonna say that Anna kept it to herself so that no one can foiled her.

    Anna cracked a joke about Shelia?

    This cheating business is not that serious. Lol Anna didn’t cheat really. Jeremy did. I’m glad Anna got to be with Pearl. Anna stole the necklace because she was staving to see her mother.

    Stefan and compulsion; He gets compelled just as much, if not more than Caroline. Has Stefan ever been himself? He’s been compelled … I don’t know how many times. They are torturing Stefan into their way of thinking. It’s so bad and sad and WTF Elena LET STEFAN GO OR KILL HIM. It is a BS and gross.

    Yeah what was Lexi and Stefan’s relationship? Is this is why Stefan is latched on the good version of Katherine? This makes Lexi and Stefan interesting. It’s sick, First Katherine and then Lexi. Stefan I bet sees himself in Caroline … double intendra.

    I feel like Katherine should have owned that necklace.

    Elena shut up.

    Mason looks ratchet. Lol I doubt Mason would have been with Damon.

    I wish you could yell at the writers. I feel reprimanded when you frustrated with the writers and I don’t even write for this show.

    Bonnie’s consequence was that she can’t have their power anymore or talk to them. She was cut off.

    The Lockwood cave …used to be the Bennett’s land?

    “We will all be free!” Oh happy day!

    Did Damon really say “help a brother out?”

    Tyler activated the curse and he’s now a hybrid.

    Damn “But Bonnie’s ancestor’s founding the town did not merit a flashback” … DAMN!

    Caroline. Yes.

    Bonnie.

    I love Kat’s voice when she does the spells. I thought Jeremy was going to grab her hand. I was angry and then it was Grams and I was happy. I love that Shelia is still watching Bonnie. I love that Bonnie could hear this from Shelia. I hope Bonnie always knows this.

    That’s RIGHT WITCHES RUN THIS SHIT!

    Sooner of later Bonnie’s gonna say juju … <_<

    :X Alta is talking through her teeth y’all. :X

    If Bonnie isn’t like Elena and Caroline … then why are they friends?

    When Elena was talking about ghosts I was just shaking my head.

    Lol Uh-oh! DUDE! I HATE WHEN PEOPLE TELL ME TO STOP WATCHING THE SHOW! Just because I complain about it … so what. *shrugs*

    • How can humans steal from vampires? Without help? Smh..

      They mean after they died. Katherine said back in season two that the Lockwoods took the vampires’ properties after they “burned” them. Just like how the Gilberts stole Pearl’s apothecary.

      Anna cracked a joke about Shelia?

      Yeah, back in season 1 when Damon questioned how the rest of the tomb vamps got out. Anna went, “Guess the witch got that part of her hocus pocus wrong.” I was side-eyeing her. Because who even made it possible for her to get her mother out?

      I feel reprimanded when you frustrated with the writers and I don’t even write for this show.

      Lol.

      Bonnie’s consequence was that she can’t have their power anymore or talk to them. She was cut off.

      She doesn’t even mind. Heck she doesn’t even need them anymore.

      The Lockwood cave …used to be the Bennett’s land?

      I don’t think so, since the Originals in the flashback were there before the Bennetts.

      Did Damon really say “help a brother out?”

      Yep.

      I HATE WHEN PEOPLE TELL ME TO STOP WATCHING THE SHOW! Just because I complain about it … so what. *shrugs*

      Exactly!!!

      • They mean after they died. Katherine said back in season two that the Lockwoods took the vampires’ properties after they “burned” them. Just like how the Gilberts stole Pearl’s apothecary.

        But still the only reason they got to the point where they could burn then was because Emily was worming behind the scenes, boosting up the humans and then they turned on her.

        I complain about SPN all the time and people are like “STOP WATCHING IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE THAT WAY!” excuse you, I like Sam and Bobby and any woman who shows up and gives those dudes shit. Also I’m a masochistic person and like to watch shit that bothers me. So there. :p

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