Episode 33: By The Light of The Moon

Episode 33

Quote of the podcast: “Stefan, he’s so pious he doesn’t get horny.” –Moi

Guest: Olu

In this episode we discuss the show’s lack of a stable relationship that viewers can invest in and count on (whether familial, platonic, or romantic), how the Salvatores have the final say in Elena’s life (with Bonnie taking Stefan’s side in this episode and Rose taking Damon’s last episode), the show’s continued portrayal of the Salvatores as being the most concerned about Elena, always, and the Klaus Elijah describes here is nothing like the Klaus we meet later.

Spoilers abound from 2:16:44.889 to 2:37:42.394.

Kat’s wish for Bonnie:http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/08/the-vampire-diaries-kat-graham-on-her-season-3-wish-for-bonnie.html

Tweets: vampire-diaries.net (third page)

Michael Trevino: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/08/the-vampire-diaries-michael-trevino-will-tyler-and-caroline-give-into-their-urges.html

New characters: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/10/vampire-diaries-sebastian-roche/

Ripper past: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/08/the-vampire-diaries-claire-holt-cast-as-stefans-ex-becky.html

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9 thoughts on “Episode 33: By The Light of The Moon

  1. Hey Alta and Olu!

    Alta you’re not even going to give Stefan the benefit of the doubt? 😡

    Bonnie is Elena’s “Help“. Like Emily was Katherine’s

    Damon is Stefan’s curse. If only it played out that way and there’s was more allusion to it and less of Damon’s presence around. I wish Damon did haunt Stefan more in that he was more mysterious and hovered in the background.

    Bonnie is so black is what it is. 😡

    … Elena and Tyler … :-/

    Stefan is hotter. Damon is more of the same. :[

    I like that Bonnie caught and called out Elena in her lie.

    Or Monkey Slut!

    You love Damon’s line about Bonnie. 😉

    Damon’s not smart. Bonnie has the power and they always try to claim her power when she gets it right. When she fails it’s all he fault.

    Whoa! I just said that. Haha Mind link! Wow Julie said that. They just take them down off the shelf when they need to play with them. Smh

    “Damon can’t do shit.” Omg perfect.

    Do you think that Caroline is invited into Bonnie’s house? Because I feel like no vampires are allowed in Bonnie’s house. … they should have hid the moonstone there. That’s all I’m gonna say about that.

    If Bonnie said that the fandom would eat her alive. *smirk*

    Jules! \o/

    Maybe Alaric reads lips.
    Also when Bonnie submitted her powers to Elijah’s plan she became apart of the group who sat by and let 3 people be sacrificed to make Klaus invincible.

    I don’t like “Vampire Barbie”. Especially from Damon, because he totally used her like a toy/doll last season and it’s gross. Not endearing at all.

    Mason begging for Tyler, is essentially Mason begging for his life. “I can be your werewolf, I can be your sacrifice” (even though we didn‘t know about that at the time). I think Mason – even thought he was being released from his curse- would rather have been a werewolf then have Tyler take his burden. :[

    Elena smiled when Damon made that joke about having fun with Caroline so I don’t expect anything from her … but THIS SHOW! UGH!

    Alaric needs a sassy gay friend. ALARIC! LOOK AT YOUR LIFE! LOOK AT YOUR CHOICES! This is why Alaric should have been with Vanessa.

    Caroline why are you doing this with Tyler?

    UGH! I don’t like when they talk about Mason. I do not like it! D;

    Other better Vampire hunters. Like the guy Gordon on Supernatural. He was ruthless! And the brothers thought he was over the top and condemned him, but later they turned into the same kind of hunter but it was all honky-dory then.

    Bring back Gordon and put him on VD so Alaric can see how it’s done.

    Luka could have over reacted “I got winner, guys. I got winner!”

    I would love to see/hear the producers/writers faces as they listen to people pick apart “all their hard work, planning and thinking”. YEAH RIGHT. It all looks like they just pulled it out their ass.

    Why is Alaric here?

    LOL what’s the point Olu!? I feel like in other shows supernatuals and sense each other. Why not in this show? It’s so dumb. For the plot!

    Vampires are supposed to be nocturnal and be able to see in the dark. I always thought it was funny when the vampires on Buffy and Angel had flashlights. Cause if in the centuries of darkness your undead eyes haven’t adjusted to the lack of light I don’t know how you can all yourself a creature of the night. *shrug*

    I don’t think Ripper Stefan would kill Katherine, I think he would torture her. I do think ripper Stefan would be more likely to kill Damon … or maybe that’s more of a hope on my part. 😀

    This makes what Stefan has with Elena … really twisted. Not at all sweet. How is he not hurting Elena for what Katherine did to him when he was human? He has some kind of restraint.

    About Elijah’s accent? You know how it is when you spent time with people who have different accents than you. You start to pick it up and then when you get back home you fall back into your normal speech patterns.

    Yay for continuity Head Phones! Lol

    I hate for Damon to use Mason like that. :[

    Elena was asking loads of question when Rose had her. Okay.

    “Why is the oldest vampire in the world white?” Altaaaaaaaaa! Don’t even get me started. During Rose I said I wanted Elijah to be black. And then when he died someone asked me if I still wanted him to be black. Lol But then he came back.

    On Supernatural around this time they were hunting for the firsts of each supernatural race they encounter on that show. They caught what they called a “Daddy Vampire”. He as played by a black man and I was like OH YES!

    With all this history of first and magic and stuff I expect it’s origin to have happen when there was only on huge continent. All this supernatural stuff was birthed on Pangaea. There was vampires and weres and witches all spread out and then when the continent split they became subgroups.

    YOU KNOW WHY HE’S WHITE! *THROWS HANDS IN THE AIR*

    Whatever writers! I don’t buy that Elijah is younger than Klaus. Do not buy it! Nope.

    World destruction > world Dom. Angel did it better in season 2. Ugh! smh

    Honey Badger don’t give a shit! This sounds like True Blood. 😡

    Oh Vampire Diaries … you are so behind!

    He’s a white man of his word. Lol SEE! SEE Elena’s only got one POC friend and that’s more than enough. I didn’t want to go there but I’m going there. Jeremy might like Bonnie more than Elena does. OKAY! Okay.

    Also (REACHING) Greta could have been a descendant of one of the original witches who cast the original spell.

    That’s right you can not have two black women talking to each other on this show. Only one per season is allowed. And they better not be talking about other witches. They better be talking about how they can make things better for the vampires if they want to get 2 more episodes.

    Elena didn’t tell Greta about her family. I feel like Greta didn’t even know they were dead. DON’T GET ME STARTED!

    Jeremy like’s Bonnie’s magic. :]

    LOL I love when you say “Shut up Stefan!”

    M. Trevino is so much better than the asshole who plays a werewolf on US Being Human. Because Russell Tovey who is in the UK version is so amazing … M T is too. :]

    I don’t like that Caroline stays. I kept thinking that if that were me I would want to be alone. I wouldn’t want anyone to see me like that. It’s soo vulnerable. And it’s like torture porn in that cellar.

    I wish Jules would have yelled that he put something in her drink for everyone to hear.

    LMAO Alaric.

    When Jules said he was marked I thought about her peeing on him. Lol Sorry.

    I want her to leave. I want Caroline to leave Tyler alone.

    Now I’m imagining a werewolf pawing at a knocking.

    I don’t think Jeremy would have been holding Tyler. 😡 you know who I wanted to be there. 😛 Thank you for saying Bonnie. ;D

    I want to know how Rose lasted this long with how she is in this season.

    I CAN’T SEE IN THIS DARKNESS!!

    Stefan being in the tomb is like Bonnie losing her powers. SAME THING!

    UHG! Stefan/Elena.

    I HATE Rose’s wounds. D=

    “There’s something about Damon Salvatore”

    I kinda wish he got infected through their sex having.

    I could not watch Tyler change it’s horrible.

    SPOILERS!

    “Uh’m … no!” THIS!

    I’m pulling a face about Jeremy telling someone else. Alaric will tell. Bet. Jeremy might tell Elena. I thought Caroline was throwing the party. Lol

    I’m rolling my eyes about the Elena love.
    NOPE NOPE NOPE! I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT. WOMP.

    Bonnie/Stefan scenes. Bright side …?

    This show is like a game of tri-ominoes.

    Can’t find the video of Kat’s expression. :X

    I’m rolling my eyes at Tyler helping Elena.

    LMAO what! Klaus is afraid of a human? Okay … *eye roll* I bet Klaus ate this guy’s family or something.

    Eric and Bill … ?

    Another white man coming in to run things … okay. He would be a Forbes if he were Caroline’s father. Would he have left then? Wouldn’t he have taken Caroline out of the town that has vampires?

    That’s because the makers of the show cast people who look like them. *shrug*
    PREACH ALTA! I love you. Lol

    LMAO Stefan and the swirl lackage.

    Bye. Lol

    • I don’t think Ripper Stefan would kill Katherine, I think he would torture her. I do think ripper Stefan would be more likely to kill Damon … or maybe that’s more of a hope on my part.

      This makes what Stefan has with Elena … really twisted. Not at all sweet. How is he not hurting Elena for what Katherine did to him when he was human? He has some kind of restraint.

      It would never happen but I think, if at the end of this, Stefan wasn’t forgiven and he and Elena were having that final conversations or whatever, or something he said he couldn’t be with her (anyway because she would have already decided not to be with him) because he hates Katherine way too much to ever move past it with someone who looks exactly like her.

      • he hates Katherine way too much to ever move past it with someone who looks exactly like her.

        That’s weird and remarkable. I guess Stefan’s really great at identifying and separating his feelings when it comes to Katherine and Elena. Imagine the first time he saw Elena. He must have been triggered so bad. Can you imagine 100+ years later Caroline falling for someone who had Damon’s exact likeness? I know Caroline never loved Damon but there are parallels.

        I just can’t believe he put everything to rest with a couple of lines. smh

        • He must have been triggered so bad.

          Yes. I mean how could he not be? He compartmentalizes well, I guess, but I think he and Elena (especially Elena) deserve more than to work in spite of Katherine. It doesn’t help that despite being told that he dealt with what Katherine did to him, years ago, he still hates her so very much and can only manage to be around her (which is understandable) by treating her with his hate.

    • Alta you’re not even going to give Stefan the benefit of the doubt?

      Heck no.

      You love Damon’s line about Bonnie.

      Noooo!

      I think Caroline is the only vampire invited to Bonnie’s house.

      Also when Bonnie submitted her powers to Elijah’s plan she became apart of the group who sat by and let 3 people be sacrificed to make Klaus invincible.

      Yup.

      “Why is the oldest vampire in the world white?” Altaaaaaaaaa! Don’t even get me started. During Rose I said I wanted Elijah to be black. And then when he died someone asked me if I still wanted him to be black. Lol But then he came back.

      Lmao. Imagien a Black man who just won’t stay dead.

      With all this history of first and magic and stuff I expect it’s origin to have happen when there was only on huge continent. All this supernatural stuff was birthed on Pangaea. There was vampires and weres and witches all spread out and then when the continent split they became subgroups.

      I like this theory!

      Elijah should really be older than Klaus.

      That’s right you can not have two black women talking to each other on this show. Only one per season is allowed. And they better not be talking about other witches. They better be talking about how they can make things better for the vampires if they want to get 2 more episodes.

      Lmao.

      I don’t like that Caroline stays. I kept thinking that if that were me I would want to be alone. I wouldn’t want anyone to see me like that. It’s soo vulnerable. And it’s like torture porn in that cellar.

      It is very vulnerable.

      I want to know how Rose lasted this long with how she is in this season.

      For real.

      That’s because the makers of the show cast people who look like them. *shrug*

      Also true.

  2. Thanks for having me, again!

    ~ I was so happy when I heard Kat won. Delighted.

    ~ I’m glad she’s going to be in the premiere. Wonder what she’s going to be doing in the premiere? It’s called “The Birthday”? Clever. There are a bunch of strangers at this party + Tyler and Caroline. Maybe they’ve always wanted to party at that mansion.

    ~ Alaric will probably bring Damon is into it and Damon will say something about Jeremy being 16 and dismiss it because he’s an idiot.

    ~ Elena sounds more like a burden for all of these people.

    ~ They keep casting people and none of these people are family members to Bonnie or coming in for Bonnie, at the moment and likely in the future. Unless Jack Coleman is her father.

    ~ If the Stefan/Klaus hybrid arc ended up being about Bonnie I would die a happy death of happiness. It won’t, but wouldn’t it be glorious if she got a perspective on that storyline with an investment that has to do with not killing Klaus and whatever…about Stefan to do with having warned him.

    ~ Tyler/Caroline/Matt is not a triangle and it makes Matt look incredibly bad and it is the least interesting thing about him as a character and Caroline doesn’t get to breathe within it and Tyler and Matt fighting over Caroline will just be weak and gross because the show will try and play on the friendship angle without acknowledging that the writing dropped the friendship angle. We rarely get to see more than two people interacting at once unless Elena’s there or there’s romance involved or it’s about Elena in some way. Matt took himself out of the picture. He removed himself from the situation.

    ~ Eric and Bill are different! I decided that one or both of them could die considering the show is already overrun with white guys. If they took out a few vampires along the way that would be cool. Sebastian Roche usually enters shows to throw shade, so hopefully he’ll throw some glorious shade everyone’s way. On him knowing about Klaus: Maybe he won’t be entirely human? Maybe he’ll have done something to keep himself alive in order to kill Klaus? Or something. The answer will probably be unsatisfying.

    ~ And everything Rose, Trevor and Elijah have said about him is contradictory and none of it matches up to the Klaus we meant.

    ~ There was that one guy, whose name I can’t remember, who was in the tomb and loyal to Pearl. He was black. He died though. Not a lot of people of color who get to live or get to remain important to the plot.

    ~ Gloria! I hope they remove that “romance with Damon” plot. I really do.

    ~ I lost interest in Becky/Bex and Becky/Stefan as soon as I found out about Claire Holt. Which may be unfair, but whatever I planned so much headcanon (and I had a ridiculous amount) around Becky being black that it’s all worthless now.

    Wonderful news about Elena’s love acting as a purity ring. Stefan not looking at other woman during his dark period is gross because the writers are so clearly still trying to frame him as the good brother. He may kill children and bathe in the blood of virgins and Jackson Pollock family homes but he will remain celibate because giving himself up to the worst of his nature apparently means abstaining from sex. Damon has sex all the time because he’s the bad brother and bad people have sex. *eye roll* The writing for this show is so basic. It’s not like I wanted Stefan to become a stud or anything and start picking people up left and right, but it would be nice to see him kiss someone who wasn’t Katherine or Elena. Or flirt. Or even just be attracted to. Unless we’re meant to believe that he’s only ever slept with the two of them + Bex? Which would make him weird since the show has never framed him as a sexually insecure or uninterested person. Whatever all that action can be happening off-screen. Klaus is definitely looking for more than a wingman and Stefan sometimes picks up coeds. That’s my story.

    Stefan’s doing all of this for Elena? There goes the great and tragic Salvatore brother-love story.

    • There was that one guy, whose name I can’t remember, who was in the tomb and loyal to Pearl. He was black. He died though. Not a lot of people of color who get to live or get to remain important to the plot.

      That was poor pointless Harper … smh. Characterizations like that are just insulting.

      ~ Gloria! I hope they remove that “romance with Damon” plot. I really do.

      Word! I don’t ever want to see him touch another witch. Not ever again. Not after Greta.

    • Maybe they’ve always wanted to party at that mansion.

      We know Mystic Falls residents are shallow.

      I would die of shock if Bonnie got anything out of that Stefan/Hybrid arc (besides powers).

      the show will try and play on the friendship angle without acknowledging that the writing dropped the friendship angle.

      Exactly.

      ~ There was that one guy, whose name I can’t remember, who was in the tomb and loyal to Pearl. He was black. He died though. Not a lot of people of color who get to live or get to remain important to the plot.

      Harper. A character that went nowhere. I was keeping the list season 2-focused though.

      He may kill children and bathe in the blood of virgins and Jackson Pollock family homes but he will remain celibate because giving himself up to the worst of his nature apparently means abstaining from sex.

      I know, right?

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